Good looking warm weather pant that WORKS!
One of the things I can't stand is black motorcycle gear. For one, it is too hot in the summer sun, and for another, it just does not look right to me. So I purchased these in Silver and it fit the bill.<br><br>Negative - lets get this out of the way. The wind/water layer goes inside the pant. Why nobody can seem to make a pant that allows the barrier layer to be worn OUTSIDE is beyond me. As a result, I have put the lining away and pack along an oversize uninsulated ski shell pant. Not only is it waterproof and windproof, the only thing I need to remove are my boots to get it on. With an inside barrier, not only does the rain get into the mesh and make drying longer, all the road junk that gets kicked up also gets embedded in the mesh. I've never been successful getting that junk out in the wash entirely. With an external rain shell I keep the mesh clean.<br><br>Lets face it, I don't usually ride when heavy rain is forecast. But I always ride if it is just a chance of showers or some other low probability. Keeping a light rain shell on the bike that I can quickly pull on if the sky looks threatening or when it is raining as I head home is far easier than putting a liner in. Also, if the day got too long and it is getting cold, again it is easier to just pull on an over layer to add some wind protection. Why manufacturers can't seem to get any of this is beyond me. Yea, it isn't as stylish, but it is far more functional. And lets face it, when the weather sucks, the last thing you care about is how you look. I give up fashion for function every time.<br><br>Style wise, the manufacturer blends the mesh and textile pieces well, From a distance they don't scream "weird clothes", so you can actually walk around a bit and not have everyone looking at you strange. (although the neon green jacket and the bright helmet might get noticed anyway.) Still, these pants really look great. There is a thin line of reflective piping down the legs just forward of the side zippers. You really can't see it well unless it reflects back to you, but they are bright when they do.<br><br>The construction is fantastic. I had to hem about 3" off mine and the local dry cleaning shop did a fantastic job and said the design made the alteration simple. Be sure you don't hem them where you normally wear your pants, but a bit longer to cover your boot when seated. In my case, I'm normally a 29-30" inseam and found the 32" length to be ideal. They are a bit long when standing in my socks, but once in my boots, they do not touch the floor. When in a riding position, they cover my ankles. Nothing to snag and adds that little bit of extra overlap. My boots are waterproof, but the more I can keep water away from the top, the better. Having the cuff of these pants reach so low helps to hold my ski pant lower too. (ski pant has an elastic cuff that grabs the bottom cuff of the Olympia pant and holds it in place.)<br><br>I normally wear a 38x30 jean and ordered the 38" pant. I think it fits just fine. The waist on these rides higher than most denim jeans and if you have a belly, you might want to go larger. I find the added height works well to both stay under my jacket in the back when seated, and provide the protection all the way over my hips. In some pants I'd be sliding on my belt, not the pant if I was on my side.<br><br>The hip armor is nothing to write home about - just a thin pad in a dedicated pocket, but they are hardly noticeable and there does seem to be room to put something more substantial in there if desired. I figure it's more than just the fabric and frankly the pants are just as comfortable as pants I've owned without any hip protection at all. The knee armor is CE rated and is a good piece. I had to fiddle with the pocket velcro adjusters to get it to sit right on my knees, but was able to work out the design and now the pads stay in place nicely although I would have preferred them shifted a bit more to the outside. Still, I like the fact that they don't move much at all. Should stay in place in a slide.<br><br>Areas where you expect to slide are well covered. The sides, knees, and butt are solid textile. While the butt does not feel as thick as the other areas, it isn't as thin as some textile pants I've seen. Elsewhere is a fine weave mesh that blocks the sun from burning your skin, but allows a fairly good airflow. A large panel on the top of the thigh, the middle of your shin, and down the lower half of the leg provide an amazing amount of venting area. The mesh is also a lot more pliable than the solid textile which gives the pants a much better flexibility in those areas. I think this allowed the manufacturer to keep the fabric thick and stiff where it needed to be and still fit nicely.<br><br>There is a lining that keeps your skin off the more rugged outer fabric so you can wear as little as you need under these. Many times I've had just boxers on. I've also tried them on a 30 degree morning with the full wind/rain lining and a pair of light thermal underwear and was actually toasty warm. While I would not expect a summer pant to work so well in cold weather, it is nice to see that it does.<br><br>Zippers are good quality. The snaps that hold the waist closed could be stronger as I had them pop loose now and then when bending without a belt. However I always add a heavy leather belt and once in place it isn't an issue. The belt loops are a bit wide spaced on the side, but seem to work. No issue with them, but it is an unusual arrangement. I do like the stretch panels on the sides. Allows adding some light clothing underneath. I can wear a light pair of shorts and use the pants as overpants. They get very bulky over a denim short and I'd not want to wear them over jeans. I can wear thermal underwear under the factory liner, so there is a little bit of room for some clothing. Perhaps a suit or dress pant would work if it is thin enough material.<br><br>The pants are stiff, especially the fabric down the sides where the zipper is. Would not want to wear them for a long time walking around as it does not bend and flex cleanly - not uncomfortable, but the stiff fabric moving is noticeable. This might break in over time, but not a big deal for me. For anyone that would need to park their bike and walk a few blocks or take the train to an office might want to try them around the house before making modifications to see if they are too stiff for their intended use. Since I've really only worn them riding and change soon off the bike, I've not given them much motion to soften up and they really have not. I've only laundered them a few times and that has not made any difference in the fabric.<br><br>While riding, I have no issues with the construction. There are no seams that cause discomfort or anything that binds or pinches. I get no 'ride up' from shorts under the pants, and shirts do tend to stay tucked in.<br><br>The mesh does not release all the little debris that it can capture. Tiny evergreen needles seem to love to bury themselves in the weave. A little bit of going over with a pair of tweezers before hanging to dry gets the pieces out. I can imagine what these might look like after several weeks on the road. But every mesh item of clothing I've owned seems to have some kind of affinity to collecting something.<br><br>Before I describe the airflow, I want to let you know the perspective I am coming from. I live in New England and will usually not bother with a jacket down to 0 degrees F if I'm getting in the car (I will pack a jacket, I just don't wear it) When it gets over 80 degrees I am uncomfortable doing much of anything. I simply don't do well in the heat. I'm the guy who visits Florida and walks around in shorts in the winter comfortably wondering why the pool is closed. The following are my perceptions of these pants with that in mind.<br><br>The venting is fantastic. I have a fully faired bike, so I get less airflow than most and I would be very uncomfortable in these riding around town without the liner if the temps were much below the mid-50's. The few times I've ridden below 60 degrees in just the pants, the cooling air was very noticeable to the point of being cold. Where I've worn the BMW Summer Pants (non-mesh, but fairly thin fabric) down to freezing without any issues, these flow enough air that you will feel the cold. I'd say anything more than about 5-10 degrees lower than you'd be comfy in shorts is about the limit. There really is that much air flow. Add the liner and you can go much lower.<br><br>When the heat is on, they shine. Days above 90 are not too common here in New England, so I don't really need to worry about extreme heat as much as some areas of the country, but I have had a chance to ride in the high 80's and was very comfortable. Between the light color and the air flow my lower body was kept from sweating and that really was the goal. Having had several pairs of armored pants in the past of various types, this was a first. Usually the mesh is dark and absorbs heat, or it won't flow enough air and gets too warm. In any case, these just work great.<br><br>My daily summer commute is usually in the upper 50's or low 60's in the morning and then in the upper 70's or low 80's going home. These pants are comfy for these temps for me. On cooler days, I wear a solid textile pant. But these pants have been that missing element when the days are really warm. I have pushed them into cooler weather as I noted above, and with a good wind barrier and an added thermal layer, they certainly can do the job.<br><br>The only reason I don't give these 5 stars are due to the liner. If they made a wind/rain layer that fit over the pants rather than under, you'd see 5 stars. I feel I paid for a really good wind/rain layer that I can't use and had to go buy another.<br><br>Will absolutely buy again.