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Cardo PackTalk Headset - Duo Pack

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Cardo Pack Talk Bluetooth Headset - Duo Pack

The revolutionary Scala Rider PackTalk features dual-core wireless technologies for a stable and active communication network. The Bluetooth mode offers legacy by featuring full backward compatibility with other Scala Rider models. The DMC mode will compliment and expand standard Bluetooth connectivity by offering group communication that is far superior to any other existing alternatives.

DMC technology constantly forms and re-assembles its virtual network, and assures that communication among large groups remains uninterrupted irrespective of the ever-changing environment. Whenever a Cardo PackTalk user cannot directly connect with group members who are beyond the reach of the intercom, it will re-connect to the next most suitable member in the group in order to ‘leapfrog’ the connection to the remote PackTalk user. This system is virtually seamless and adjusts within split seconds to maintain an active network.

Cardo Smartset App for Android and iOS devices enables the use of a smartphone as a remote control. It allows for operation of all main features such as A2DP, intercom, FM radio and mobile calls. The App also features multiple languages - English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, Russian and Spanish.

Features:

  • DMC Intercom mode for multi-party intercom calls over a virtual private network – with up to 15 riders
  • BlueTooth 4.0
  • Bluetooth Intercom modes:
    • Conference Mode
    • Toggling between 9 riders
    • Click-to-Link
  • Communication range (line of site)
    • Up to 1 mile/1.6 Km unit-to-unit
    • Up to 5 miles/8 Km multi-hop
  • Unique roller-wheel interface and control panel for intuitive operation (winter gloves tested)
  • Interchangeable hybrid and corded microphones
  • Superb audio quality with high-definition replaceable 3.5mm speakers
  • Up to 13 hours talk-time / 1 week stand-by
  • Advanced voice recognition technology for true hands-free operation
  • Multilingual operation and spoken status announcements
  • High quality A2DP steaming
  • FM radio with RDS and six station built-in presets
  • Waterproof & dustproof (IP67)
  • DMC-Dynamic Meshwork Communication (patent pending) technology for large group intercom (up to 15 riders) over a dynamic, auto-adaptive mesh
  • Seamless group communication remains unaffected by members leaving or joining the group
  • Voice-controlled speed dial
  • Voice-control for mobile and intercom calls
  • Automatic call transfer from intercom to mobile phone when intercom range is exceeded
  • Mobile phone conference call with outside caller and/or intercom partners
  • Customizable Hot-Dial number
  • GPS instructions, FM radio, MP3 music continues in background during intercom calls
  • Rider and passenger can listen to the same stereo music via A2DP
  • Best-in-class noise-cancellation algorithms
  • Self-adjusting volume according to riding speed and ambient noise
  • Cardo Community platform for social features, device customization and software upgrades (range dependent on riding environment)
  • Up to 6 riders can talk simultaneously while all group members (up to 15) can hear the conversation
  • DMC technology allows the addition of a passenger with a Bluetooth device or a caller on a mobile phone
  • Private chat feature allows 1 on 1 conversation with a group member while staying connected to the rest of the group
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3.7 / 5.0
19 Reviews
5 Stars
4 Stars
3 Stars
2 Stars
1 Star
5
8
3
1
2
Bang For The Buck
3.4 / 5
Features
3.7 / 5
Style
4.2 / 5
Ease Of Install
3.6 / 5
Sound Clarity
3.7 / 5
Durability
3.8 / 5
Bang For The Buck
5 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
5 / 5
Great for groups
I have two headsets, the 20S and the Packtalk. These units were picked for the group-ability of the DMC and the frustration over using the 20S in groups of more than 2. First off, installation was as expected, the stick on mount was the winner for my helmet (HJC IS-Max BT). Once everything was charged and installed, then came the fun. Pairing worked fairly easy, the iPhones had to reset a few times to get the BT connection to stay stable. Not the easiest headset for beginners to get going. Phone app is great, use it when you can to make things easier. Next came the DMC testing. Once we had our 4 riders paired and grouped, we started to play with features. Connecting and disconnecting under the DMC system is amazing. Riders just come and go without disturbing the group as a whole. No more weird groups or the 20S making its own groups because someone was out of ride order. The mesh-ability of the DMC work better than expected. We were each able to bridge in another (non-riding) by using our cell phones and the app. with 4 headsets we had 8 people talking back and forth with no problems.

All in all, if you are wanting comms with just one other person, it seems any of the higher end systems work the same, but if you want the ability to ride in a group of more than 2 without diminished quality, pick up the Cardo Packtalk with DMC. DMC mesh > BT.
July 1, 2016
Ride:
2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650
Bang For The Buck
5 / 5
Features
4 / 5
Style
5 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
4 / 5
Changed my riding experience
Friends & I bought these for a ride from England to Sweden. The two key reasons that led to choosing the PackTalk were (1) everyone can speak to and hear everyone else at the same time, and (2) the audio output jack is a standard 1/8" audio plug, meaning you can use your favorite earbuds, headphones, aftermarket helmet speakers, etc. without being constrained to using what Cardo sells.
Four of us had full-face helmets with shields and used the stick-on mic inside the chin bar of the helmets ; one had a 3/4 helmet with shield and used the boom mic. Both mics are included with each PackTalk.
We rode all day every day for almost a week, with pouring rain for hours and hours, and with temperatures right down to freezing as well as up to 80F. Fog, rain, clear sun, through towns and forests. We never had a single problem with the units, using them on DMC mode to listen to our own music individually while participating in the group conversation at the same time. Battery life claims to be 8 hours but running it continually to play music and maintain our usual banter had my unit beeping the 'low battery' signal after about 5 hrs. Interestingly, it would keep working for almost 2 more hours before finally dying, so I guess 8 hrs isn't too far off. Your music automatically goes very quiet when someone is speaking or when a phone call comes in, but you can manually choose priorities for each input source.
Positioning the speakers in your helmet is very important. Get them very close to your ear and everything is lovely with plenty of volume to spare. Have them very far away and all you hear is that someone is making noise in your helmet. We had only a little problem with one mic picking up wind noise, but that was solved when our buddy realized he'd installed his boom mic backward facing into the wind. For the rest of us in full-face helmets there was no need to raise our voices and very rarely any wind background noise when speaking.
Charging time seems to be about 4 hours from fully dead.
The kit comes with plenty of extra Velcro pieces if you don't like where you put things the first time.
Our group used both the mechanical clips and the permanent tape for mounting; both versions worked well. It was difficult to get the metal clip fitted onto my Shoei GT-Air helmet but now it's on I have no concern about losing it.

That's all the plain facts and good points. What's not so good? My biggest complaint - and I do mean big - is the instruction manual. It is HORRIBLE. Poorly written, no organization, no explanation of what button they are referring to, and no continuity from one page to the next. The manual itself was almost enough to make me send mine back after I first received it. It's awful. Stay strong, though! Give yourself a couple hours (hours!) to mess with it and you will figure it out! Once you figure out the functions it's actually easy to use even with waterproof gloves on top of insulated cold weather gloves. For real. Download the app to your smartphone so you can preset radio stations and other features, and that helps make everything else a tiny bit easier to figure out, too. It's frustrating but it's worth it.
April 5, 2016
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Bang For The Buck
4 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
4 / 5
Durability
4 / 5
Great features, lousy instructions
I selected the PackTalk for two main features: first, it allows conversations between multiple riders simultaneously rather than only between two riders at a time, which is how the vast majority of motorcycle comms work. Second, these have a standard headphone style jack for your output rather than a unit-specific plug; I wanted this to be able to put some good quality headphone drivers into my helmet in future.
Thus far I have mounted the units into two helmets and used them inside the house with my teenage daughter wearing the other helmet; I have not been on the road.

The good: once we got them charged and installed in the helmets they seemed to work very well. They take a second or two to connect, either to each other or to your Bluetooth phone, but the sound is clear and they pick up conversation at normal speaking level easily. Sound quality is better than I expected. Music sounds decent and it's easy to tell by voice who is talking. About equal in quality to your iPhone speaker...good, but nothing you're going to write home about. The units seem well made and I didn't have any problem with them starting up or performing as expected. The sets include a ton of adhesive-backed Velcro pads to allow you to position the speakers and microphone in your helmet, and both sides of the pads stick very securely. Excellent quality there. The wires are super thin, leading me to worry a bit about long term durability but so far they're doing great. We have a fairly large house; with Chloe upstairs in her room and myself downstairs in mine we could still communicate easily, without any static or distortion. FM radio stations also come in at the same quality as they do on a standard radio.

The bad: The instructions. I cannot say enough bad things about the instructions. The booklet itself is high quality printing on full thickness gloss paper and should last forever; too bad the instructions are HORRIFIC!! I'm a degreed Mechanical Engineer with plenty of electronics, and I was lost trying to figure out step 2. Seriously. There is no continuity between steps, sections or pages and I'm still not clear how to use most of the features. Pathetic? Yes, but I felt better after my riding buddy who is an IT guru said he was equally confused setting up his. The buttons all work, they're easy enough to use and I like the fact that they all seem rugged. The iPhone app is fairly straight forward (again, zero instructions) and my daughter said the Android app was similarly okay. I like that the apps allow you to set radio station presets and a one-touch phone number to call at the push of a button, altho I haven't yet figured out how to make the call. Using Siri thru the helmet was easy and worked well.

The horrible instructions are the ONLY thing I don't like, so far. I'm fixing to go on a 10 day riding tour across Europe and will let y'all know how the system held up once I get back.
July 6, 2015
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Bang For The Buck
2 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
4 / 5
Not ready for prime time.
Units tested have version 1.0 of the software. I found no software updates.

First impression off the mount seemed cheap but it work and is solid fit on my neotec helmet. Nice compact package smaller than my other BT Headset.

PROs
Intercom works great. We love the intercom. Clear and easy to understand at all speeds. Built in Radio works great. Parallel tasking radio and intercom very good. Paired my bike audio to Bluetooth channel 2 (music) works ok.

CONs
Parallel tasking Music plus intercom. Voice intercom was so bad it was useless. I could not get music sharing to work with either the built in radio nor the music.

I hope I hope I hope, (because I really want this to work) there will be software updates to fix. In the mean time it is not working as advertised. I have email into cardo but not heard from customer service yet.
June 20, 2015
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Ride:
2014 BMW K1600GTL
Bang For The Buck
4 / 5
Ease Of Install
5 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
5 / 5
Quality Product. Weak documentation.
I received the Palktalk Duo on Saturday and left on my road trip on Monday so I didn't have a lot of time to test and tweak my settings. I have mostly used the intercom feature, but I have also used cell phone and music feature. All work very well. Operating with gloves is very easy. The features I've explored work very well, but the documentation is weak and focuses mostly on the features associated with riders joining and leaving and rejoining the comm "pack". Tweaking the volume levels for each feature (mobile phone, intercom, radio, music) works well but could use clearer instruction and explanation at first I thought the volume levels were too low (like on my G4) but using the iPhone app I tweaked up now I can go back to using ear plugs when I ride!. Build quality is very good. My only gripes are that although the quickly detachable Packtalk unit securely attached it also detaches very easily with a misplaced finger or thumb (although you'd really have to reach far back to reach the release- if you did release the latch at speed that would be it for your Packtalk! so I'm looking for a mini lanyard like on the go pro) Also, it would be nice if they included a semi-hard case for the detachable unit storage and transport .
July 23, 2015
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Ride:
2012 BMW K1600GTL
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
4 / 5
KILLER HEADSET
I hate to sound over the edge but this product has done nothing less than changing the way me and my buddies do our weekend rides. Being able to get in- and out of the pack without killing the whole group connection is an amazing experience which we never got with good-ol-bluetooth. That's how it must have felt way back when they went from from black and white to full color TV. Quite a screamer this Packtalk thing.
June 22, 2015
Bang For The Buck
2 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
3 / 5
Durability
3 / 5
It could be better.
I got my product yesterday. I noticed that the mount to attach the unit on the base could be better. The speakers is not that loud compared to the sena s20. I still can not get the Voice command to work at all. The instruction manual is horrible. I took the Packtalk for a test run on DMC it's nice because when one person is disconnect out of range it connects back automatically. After about 1/8 of a mile the sound is fuzzy. I have a total of 4 units.
June 19, 2015
Ride:
2008 Yamaha YZF-R1
Bang For The Buck
4 / 5
Features
5 / 5
Style
5 / 5
Ease Of Install
3 / 5
Sound Clarity
4 / 5
Solid Investment
Finally bit the bullet and picked up a set of communicators for longer road trips with my friends. All I can say is these absolutely make the miles fly by and it's great being able to communicate with other riders in your group. The only reason I really chose this over the Sena were looks and the waterproof rating but I think you would be just as well off with a sena unit. The volume control wheel is awesome and provides great feedback with gloves on and the buttons are ok to operate with summer gloves, but winter ones become a bit vague if you aren't used to the device yet. You won't regret this purchase, however if you make the mistake of watching Anthony's video run down like I did you will unmistakably start a cult with fellow cardo users, maintaining full radio silence except for the intermittent singing of the word "PackTalk!" You have been warned. Great product!
November 7, 2016
Purchased
1 year ago
Ride:
1981 Yamaha SR250T
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
4 / 5
Durability
3 / 5
Great leap forward in tech, couple steps back in function
Got my PackTalk last night. Install only took an hour for both helmets since I already had the velcro there from the G9s.
The unit is bigger than what I expected. Its not a bad thing considering its on the side of the helmet and you need to be able to hit the buttons with gloves on.
The two items right off that bother me are the dust/water cover for the micro USB slot and the snap in connection of the unit to the helmet mount.
On the G9/G9x, the dust cover was big and sometimes a bit of a pain to get off, but that was a good thing. You knew it was secure. On the PackTalk, its small and sometimes difficult to get seated correctly and even then you wonder if it will stay well.
On the G9/G9x, you could physically see how the unit attached to the helmet mount. The unit has two posts that sit in cut out grooves of the mount that then lock in place when you slide it back. The PackTalk snaps into the mount. It has a small tongue and groove point at the front and a two more in the rear. The two in the rear are part of the release mechanism that you press toward the helmet to release the unit. I am sure it is secure, but the G9/G9x gave that extra feeling of being secure when it locked into place.

The G9/G9x have their own learning curve, and that does not go aware with the PackTalk. There are three buttons and a rolling wheel that are used to navigate the options. It will take some reading and practice to remember the different button combinations when using the unit.
There is a phone app that so far looks really good. What I have used of it, I like it. For major items like creating a pack, or joining a pack, I would use the phone app to do this.
I have not been able to use all of the different functions yet, so I may update my review after I get more time with the unit. These are just my first impressions.
June 17, 2015
Purchased
over 2 years ago
Ride:
2008 Kawasaki ZG1400 Concours ABS
Bang For The Buck
4 / 5
Features
4 / 5
Style
5 / 5
Ease Of Install
5 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Best set ever.
The controls make since, easy to use even while wearing gloves. The sound quality is unmatched. I called my wife cruising at 65mph with the modular visor up on a 1600cc road star and she thought I was still in the office.
May 26, 2017
Purchased
11 months ago
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Why did you choose this?
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To update from my Cardo G9Xs and get improved functionality.
F I on Oct 31, 2017
the price was interesting and the technical conditions
Mariela A on Aug 17, 2017
To update from my Cardo G9Xs and get improved functionality.
F I on Oct 31, 2017
Looking forward to riding with friends and family who use Cardo communicators.
Jerry P on Aug 20, 2017
the price was interesting and the technical conditions
Mariela A on Aug 17, 2017
Always had Cardo systems and believe the performance is the best on the market
Cole P on Aug 4, 2017
The Cardo G-9s that we had for at least 4 years had much better noise control on the Intercom than the Senas I tried briefly. Also the software was much more user friendly. Since I struck out with noise problems on the Sena 10Rs, I decided to go back to Cardo. This appeared to be the flagship offering from them. It got good reviews.
Al H on Jul 7, 2017
From other riders feedback in the Victory group I am a member of, they have great things to say about these units. Upgrading from Scala G9X unit.
Steve F on Jul 5, 2017
Needed a good comm system.
Ritesh M on Jun 6, 2017
looks easy to use and I like the long range dmc tech.
Jeffrey F on Jun 3, 2017
We have had the first version Scala Bike to Bike Radios they worked flawlessly since 2011 they are shutting off unexpectedly so we are upgrading
Frank K on May 30, 2017
Really nice to be able to talk when riding. Phone calls, radio, my music library , intercom with other riders or passenger. Woks good
Kirk S on May 2, 2017
This is a major upgrade from our proprietary Scheubreth SRC system. The sound quality and the ease of setup was better than I had anticipated.
Steven K on May 2, 2017
Waterproof
Kristian D on Apr 9, 2017
my friends had gotten it so i had to also. though i though sena had better reviews. was stuck
A C on Sep 10, 2016
Read so many positive reviews.
Aprilia Man on Jul 25, 2016
did a lot of research and found this to be the best option for me
Michael M on Jun 21, 2016
DMC and the ability to firmware upgrade.
Joel B on May 19, 2016
The ability to communicate is great. This was a pain in the rear to set up, but worth it. The sound quality for the phone calls and noise canceling is excellent. It has allowed my to do work hours commuting and traveling when I could not before. The system works as designed, with the pack, breaking up and linking back up. Battery life is great.
David C on Sep 23, 2015
Features
Douglas H on Sep 21, 2015
it's marketed as waterproof & hoping it is as good or better than the Sena 20s.
LW S on Jul 7, 2015
seemed like it was what i needed
RICHARD F on Jun 13, 2015
Looking forward to riding with friends and family who use Cardo communicators.
Jerry P on Aug 20, 2017
Always had Cardo systems and believe the performance is the best on the market
Cole P on Aug 4, 2017
my riding buddy is getting the Packtalk and I have a G9X. Can we talk?
A shopper on Jan 19, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes, but not using the DMC feature
What is in the box of the duo pack?
A shopper on Jun 9, 2016
Can you listen to music and have an intercom chat at the same time ?
James C on Aug 7, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Yes, during chat, the volume of your music is turned down lower, but it's there in the background.
Hi!
The features mention that using DMC mode you can talk with upto 10 people. I would like to know can you have a Group of 10 people connected and talking at the same time or do you need to Toggle between various users like with a G9?
A shopper on Jul 26, 2015
BEST ANSWER: All 10 can talk and listen at the same time in DMC mode. When in Bluetooth mode its more of a toggle like the G9 is/was.
Also, if the group gets split up into say 6 and 4, those two separate groups have comms until the group gets back together again. Pretty awesome.
Can I connect my phone to my bike with a cable to listen to my music through my stereo (since I spent so much to upgrade it) and just use this to talk to my group?
Jesse L on May 14, 2017
Will this headset fully integrate with the K1600 GTL, can you use the bikes wonder wheel to control volume etc.? I usually ride 2 up, my wife and I both have Schuberth C3 Pro helmets. I like the way the Schuberth SRC Bluetooth system fits in the helmet, but have read some negative reviews. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what Bluetooth system works best with this bike? . My wife and I both have cellphones and we both want to listen to Sirius radio and I want to hear Nav directions and of course intercom. Thanks for your input.
Edmund P on Oct 15, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Only the BMW communicator will allow wonder wheel volume control, and allow both helmets to be paired with the bike. With this setup my rider helmet is paired to the bike, to my phone, and the other helmet. I get bike audio and GPS in the rider helmet and my wife pairs to her own phone for her music. We can both listen the the bikes music by doing music sharing from the riders helmet, however it interrupts the intercom. I use this setup with a 2016 BMW R1200RT.
I use the g9and it works great most of the time. I was wondering if they mean full duplex with 10 riders or toggle between, like the g9? Talking to the whole group is a nice safety option its great for safety. For example potholes and left turners for starters. Breakdowns,and the list goes on.
A shopper on Apr 19, 2015
BEST ANSWER: In answer to your question: YES! All riders can speak and listen to all the other riders simultaneously. In fact, each rider can also have their own music playing in the background in their own helmet at the same time as having the group conversation going. We've just finished riding from England to Sweden in a group of 5 and had no problems at all with our units, despite frequent heavy rain in Germany and Norway, temps as high as 80F in London and almost to freezing crossing into Sweden. The instruction book is terrible, but the units have worked beautifully.
I thought i read somewhere that the "Pack Talk" would revert to your cellphone and call if the other rider went out of range.
Will this item do this?

I am currently using the Cardo G4 and it is time to upgrade. The primary use that I want is longer range intercom to other riders and bluetooth connectivity to my phone, gps or motorcycle.

Thanks,
Ron
Ronald P on Mar 27, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Page 13 of the user manual:
INTERCOM-TO-PHONE
In Bluetooth Intercom mode, if a “1+8” Buddy is not in range, or moves out of range, you have the option to set up the “Intercom-to-Phone” feature via the Cardo Community , to remain in contact by diverting Intercom calls automatically to your mobile phones.

It doesn't go into more detail, so I imagine it's one of those things you just have to try. Presumeably it dials whatever number you associated with the buddy name, and they have to answer with a VOX command, and then you chat via phone until one of you hangs up. But in this mode, can you also chat with one of the other 1+8 connected parties? No idea.

I'm still debating taking a chance on this one.
We have used two previous versions of the cardo units, most recently the G9x. In heavy traffic, we experience drops between our comm. We think it is trying to connect to bluetooth in passing cars. Can anyone comment on dropping comm between the two bikes in heavy traffic? Thanks!
Christina L on Jun 8, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I purchased the two pack system approximately a year and a half ago. I mostly ride solo but use it when my son and I get together for a few days on the road. So my experience is limited and we use it between our two bikes without passengers. I do not stream music and seldom use the radio function. I have used the cell phone option a few times. I generally ride with earplugs due to helmet wind noise. The audio quality is sufficient at best. Communication between bikes is very good as long as there is line of site. I have had no issues with crosstalk with other systems or attempts to link to other systems in traffic. We try to avoid traffic and populated areas so we may not have encountered similar conditions.
I ride with a half helmet, can you get a boom mic for this? ..maybe in a half helmet kit like the G9x? Cardo's write up and photos show a hybrid mic, but I'm not sure how i would mount that.

I haven't seen one available for the PackTalk but would like to pursue purchasing a duo set up.

Also, are these units smaller than the G9x? Are they the same or smaller than the 20s?
A shopper on Jul 16, 2015
BEST ANSWER: I use this with my half hemet and I really like it. I had to go to this since I bought an Indian Roadmaster and wanted to connect to my bike to listen to the radio. I now mainly just have this headset connected to my iPhone all the time since it connects so well with my phone and has crystal clear reception on the mic when I am talking to someone on the phone or someone coonected via bluetooth. The main thing I do about the earpieces is I just use earbuds since you can plug them into the Cardo.
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