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Held Phantom 2 Gloves
The Held Phantom Glove has been a favorite in the Held range for years, and has been been improved in the new Phantom II. Highly abrasion-resistant kangaroo leather and rayskin trim, real titanium knuckle shell and impact-absorbing special foam provide top notch protection.
Note: The Held Phantom 2 Gloves run large and we suggest you go down one size if you are in between sizes.
- Highly abrasion-resistant kangaroo leather
- Colorfast & sweat-proof
Fit and Features:
- Pre-formed, crease-free palm
- Special step seam avoids pressure points on inner hand & enhances feel
- Tunnel strap
- Visor wipe
- Perforated finger side walls
- Titanium knuckle protectors
- GFK protectors on edge of hand, covered with Superfabric brand material
- Highly abrasion-resistant stingray leather, underlaid with shock-absorbing gel on ball of thumb
- SUPERFABRIC reinforcement on fingers
- SUPROTECT shock-absorbing special foam on and over back of hand & ball of thumb
- Kevlar protection on back of hand
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Reviews & Questions
After a good bit of research, I decided to go with the Held Phantom II gloves. My oh my, are they nice! The integrated wiper blade on the left index finger is a much better solution than wiping your visor with your glove and smearing water everywhere when it rains. It's got gobs of protective features and feels like a tank.
Downsides? Feels like a tank. There's still plenty of flex in the hands, but they took a few weeks to break in, and it doesn't quite have the range of motion in the thumb area that I'd like. Don't get me wrong - they're quite comfortable - but they don't have the flex that thinner gloves have. From a protective standpoint, this is good, but from a comfort standpoint, it's a small annoyance.
The airflow is ok. Your hands don't sweat, but it's not exactly the same feeling as a forest breeze here.
The other downside is that they're stupid expensive. They've held up amazingly well over the last few months - not a stitch out of place and the leather is in great shape, but ouch, not easy on the pocket book. It does feel like you get your money's worth, but it's not a small amount of money. Still, I tell the wife that they're cheaper than hand surgery if you wipe out.
Would I buy them again? Yes.
If you don't require the greatest amount of protection possible in a motorcycle glove? You may want to look at less expensive gloves.
Do you want titanium covered knuckles? Get this glove.
1. Full Kangaroo leather - kangroo leather feels amazing and extremely light weight. They are unbelievably light and this factor helps in reducing fatigue even if its minimal.
2. Stingray protectors - Stingray is the best out there for sliders and good to see it being used here to good effect.
3. Titanium + Kevlar - Safety is top notch on the Phantoms. These gloves feel bomb proof and are right up there at the top of the food chain in terms of safety
4. Comfort - The gloves feel very soft on the hand and the ventilation and finish is good too. They feel super comfortable right out of the box which is a good thing.
5. Price - for the money one pays for these, you get a lot of bang for your buck. Makes the deal only sweeter
1. The size 10 feels just that wee-bit big for my hand. Its not a big deal but I get a feeling that a 9.5 would have probably fit better. But I am sticking with the 10 and not exchanging them for the 9.5 because they feel right despite there being an mm or two to spare above the ring and pinky fingers
2. The thumb is huge. Maybe Held used a camel's toe for digit ratios or whatever but its plain simple stupid how they messed up an otherwise perfect ergo and design.
3. The cuff closure velcro patch is a bit too small for my liking. would have preferred a bigger and more substantial closure patch.
4. The all-black is full stealth design and I prefer it that way. But a lot of people would miss the bling factors that an A-star or a Dainese carry. I had almost gone for the neon-yellow ones but then stuck to the black.
Would I recommend these gloves? a big YES
I am super impressed with the product. So much so that my next gloves purchase would most probably be a Held too.
Sizing, this is the big one, I read the reviews and did the measurements (9.25 inch hand), was sure a 10 would be a good match for XL Alpinestars and Dainese, but found the 10 to be much larger. I exchanged for size 9 and it seemed snug prior to the ride with a bit of play here and there, they quickly loosened a bit and are still sloppier than an XL Dainese and A-stars due to larger volume around the fingers (length is about the same). A-stars XL is actually rather tight pre-ride but after an hour in the heat they loosen a bit, however I still get some soreness after a long ride cause they are really tight (but feel custom fit). The Dainese XL is looser and is really a great compromise, and the Held is the loosest but also no hand pain and still reasonably tolerable slop (the pinky is the sloppiest finger and feels a bit fumbley)
The Phantom stitching is kind of meandering, but can't find a functionality issue anywhere, the kangaroo die job looks really deep, hope it does not fade, cause these things pop like crazy (got the yellow, Hi Viz). The stingray is very flexible and the superfabric is very stiff, but the gauntlet is well designed and no pressure points exist. The throttling motion could be restrictive for some, but I did not notice any issues, can run to stops without glove binding.
The glove exceeds my expectations, I love the look, the protection, control, comfort, and feel; a bit loose for my thin fingers, but not a deal breaker. Highly recommended.
As others have said, the ulna protection interferes uncomfortably with full throttle movement. Maybe if I'd gotten a 9, it would be laid out right for my hands; can't say.
If the thumbs are more than a tiny bit snug right out of the box, or if the stiff side thing jams into your hand when your wrist is bent fully back, return them and go a size up. Don't be an optimist like me. By the time I figured it out, they were unreturnable.
I don't notice any of this on the track, but I do on the street sometimes. After an hour on the bike I notice the thumbs. I should probably admit I simply lit a match to three hundred beans, or at least get a pair of something else for street riding.
I haven't crashed in these yet so I can't judge the protection. As for durability I've only got a few months of riding on them. For the price they should be like new aside from dirt and break-in, and they are.
It sounds like Held needs to figure out how to get their sizing consistent. I'm pretty sure I would be 100% happy with these gloves if I'd gotten them a size larger. But how many tries would it have taken to get a pair that was the size they said it was? This pair of eights was at most an 8 1/2. From what people are saying, maybe the nines I ordered would be a ten. Ridiculous.
Figured I would give these a shot since they were on sale for a while when the original distributor dropped them. I have only done a track weekend in them, but so far they are OK, the fit in the hand seems to be just as good as the originals, but like some others on here the thumb for some reason is a little long. Then my biggest complaint is the new knuckle system, I know it is supposed to help move air, but really it is just a little too big compared to the old style, which fits over my knuckles perfectly.
I have not crashed in these so I can not comment on that, but they seem to be built just as well as the OGs. Still has the sting ray in the palm and their new material on the forearm and pinky. It does feel like they added a bit more foam on the inside which is nice also, and the kangaroo leather still allows plenty of feel. These gloves will last a lifetime if taken care of. One of my OG pairs have gone down at least 3 times since owning and still have barely any sign of the damage done to the rest of my body and the bike. :D
So all around the glove is a great glove if it fits your hand properly. I just do not get why the thumb is so long and why the knuckle protection has to be so big, other than that I trust this glove to do its job and hopefully I will just get used to the thumb part over this coming season.
The protection and quality of construction look pretty high end. The gauntlet could be a tad bigger: it is a real struggle to get over the cuff of my jacket, and does not allow for the velcro to get more than barely fastened. I am able to get the cuff under the jacket more easily, but I am unsure which way I will end up wearing it most.
I have ordered a half size down: a size 9.5 Held. The original order was size 10; my actual hand circumference was about 9.25", so I ordered erring on the large size. It fits almost perfectly in the fingers, but just a hair too long, and the thumb is definitely too long. I figure the half size down should be perfect, but I expect the thumb will still be slightly too long.
Still, I would rather have a thumb slightly too large than too tight on my gloves, as I have had issues breaking in stubborn gloves from Icon and Alpinestars that used to make half my hand go numb after even a short ride. It took several wet cycles to get them comfortable enough for long rides.
I may post a further update once I get the 9.5 size to try on, but I expect fit will be as good as it gets, which is pretty darn good and very comfortable.
I had considered some of the GoreTex options (Race Tex and Air N Dry) from Held also, but I changed my mind. I got some free waterproof Acerbis gloves with my gear order, so I elected to not compromise on the glove I would wear 90% of the time for the sake of the 10% wet riding. I always keep a couple pairs of gloves with me when I ride long trips on the VFR, so this works for me.
- Premium materials
- Great "feel"
- Excellent protection*
*Assuming they aren't defective
- Run large
- Ulna protection prevents moment
- Poor quality control
I was looking for a gauntlet style glove for occasional track days. After trying several of the different name brand lines, I decided on the Held Phantom II. The material and technology is incredible. The feel was very good for such a protective glove. This is where the praises end and the nightmare begins...
The fit was almost a whole size larger (based on my measurement I should wear a 9-9.5 and selected an 8). After my first day of use, I realized that my right glove was actually smaller than my left. It probably was factory defect and would also explain why the finger stitching came undone about half an inch on my middle finger. This was after my third usage. To make matters even worse, the ulna protection interferes with bending your wrist enough to open the throttle. It became a noticeable problem, enough that it alone would make me consider a different glove. I tried other gauntlet offerings from Alpinestars and Dainese and think that I will go with the Dainese Metal D1. Wish me luck with the warranty claim.
I don't expect better durability and service for a glove at this price point and as such would suggest purchasing $20 throw away gloves before choosing these.
1 month ago
In the 9 the pinky is way too long, but the other fingers are ok. I read that the pinky are long for some, but that could be due to improper fit.
In the 8, proper size, all fingers feel great.
The super fabric feels very strong, and the closed cell foam padding everywhere is great feeling.
All around great product.
Mine were Made in Hungry if anybody cares.