Tour Master Overpants
Most protection you can hope to get at retail price
People have ranging levels of comfort but in my opinion, protection comes first, then comfort. And while I'm not too excited with the price on these pants, I've done my research and have come to the conclusion that this is probably the most protection you can hope to get at retail price.
One thing I do want to point out is that it appears there is a lack in compatibility standard in this industry. A very specific example of this is that these pants have the zipper in the back as does the Phoenix Ion High-Viz Jacket that I currently own. They should both work together but zips to the left while the other zips to the right and so they can't. This industry needs to settle on some compatibility standards that demonstrate having their customer's best interest in mind and not just looking out for their competitors. It's not just about your customers looking at someone else's jacket to sew your zipper to; it may very well be that they already have the jacket and they're looking for pants from your product line to work with their jacket.
That said, my wife graciously volunteered to take out the factory zipper of my Phoenix Ion High-Viz jacket and attach the one that came with these pants. I decided to go this route and make the pants the base instead of the jacket because the jacket has a dedicated flap for attaching the zipper and you have room to make mistakes whereas the zipper on these pants would have to be professional altered (i.e. more $$$).
So, as I indicated, after doing much research, I finally settled on these because other pants in this price range (cheaper, that is) had the padding but not the abrasion resistance, or had the padding and abrasion resistance, but not the reflective piping or material for increased visibility; or any number of other permutations of features: this had them all.
1. Impact protection (knee pads and hip armor)
2. Abrasion resistance (600D throughout; others had 600D sparingly)
3. Reflective material (piping that points outwards while sitting)
I should also point out that the waist adjustment velcro straps do leave some room on the underside for you to feed a jacket's belt loop attachments. Combined with the modified zipper on the back of my jacket, the two have now become a "one-piece suit" and it's pretty secure.
Overall I'm satisfied with the product itself given it's affordability. If you need abrasion/impact protection now but won't be able to afford the leathers for quite some time, this is for you. I believe the price is going to speak to its overall quality and the pants themselves will give you a little more peace of mind over simply wearing jeans.
As over pants, my recommendation would be to go ahead and wear your jeans (or riding jeans) underneath them for some added layering. You can also put your leather wallet(s) in the pockets of these pants and zip the pocket closed for some added jury-rigged impact protection/padding there too :)
August 15, 2015
good basic riding pants
the airflow is almost nonexistant.. good fit and overall quality
July 20, 2015
all weather pants
I purchased these for my son. They fit him perfectly and has so many adjustable features he has to learn what they all do. He is very happy with them.
June 22, 2015
Great product, exactly what I needed.
Overall a great product, the only issue I had was the inseam length. It was a bit shorter than expected and I sent it back to get a longer length. No other issues.
April 27, 2015
A nice set of overpants for commuting
I picked these up in December mainly to use in situations where I did not want to be in riding pants all day. They are great over jeans, but also work great over shorts. As with just about all overpants, they are a bit awkward when wearing them. The fit is affected a lot by what you are wearing underneath them.
I am 6'2, and wear 34x34 jeans (sometimes 36 waist) and these fit me well. with the knee guards in the lowest position they fit nicely when I'm on the bike in the riding position, and riding position is more important than off bike fit.
They do have some ventilation, but not the best, so if it's hot out, these may not be the best option for long rides. However, if you have a nice commute, these are golden, as you can have your pants or shorts under them, and just take them off. They are great for going out with friends on my FJR1300, because I can leave them in the cases, and not have to walk around in them all the time.
April 15, 2015
Great pants with good protection
These pants definitely keep you warm, depending on what you wear under them, and i haven't gotten fast enough to test out the front zipper air inlets. Knee armor is adjustable which is nice because I needed to lower it, and the fit is very good for an overpant. Glad i got them
April 13, 2015
I ended up returning these, but wanted to provide a review on the fit at least to help others. I'm 5'6", 140 pounds, 30/32 waist, very avg build, so ordered a medium on these with the short inseam. Even over a pair of jeans, I found these to run quite large, and despite being a short inseam, they were pretty darn baggy. Much like any normal clothes. if you're a shorter guy like me, even short inseams seem to be the long side. I ended up ordering Revit's Vapor pants in small/short, and even these are a bit baggy on me - but at least work much better.
Quality and materials seem perfectly acceptable, though they did not seem to have any neat design features or interesting detail - fairly nondescript black pants.
November 25, 2014
Take review for what it is!
Being a new rider, please take my review for what it is, on my first pair of pants. I can give no bad scores because I like them.
I bought these protective motorcycle pants because A- they had a good review and B- came in a short inseam.
They have adjustable knee protection, hip pads and seem that they would do well in case of a mishap.
They are very adjustable for fit with adjustments at the ankle and waist being easy to manipulate. Using the sizing chart, they fit me very well. They are said to be an all weather pant. Just obtaining them, I have only ridden in cool to colder weather. They kept me warm with a air of basic sweat pants underneath for a 20 minute ride at about 40 degrees. I have not opened vents. I do not know if they will be cool enough in the summer. I am a non-limber man, but as these pants unzip the complete length of the outer leg, they are easy to get in and out of with motorcycle boots on.
They are heavy, and add bulk. But, I bought them for protection, and feel a sense of comfort wearing them I did not have when I just ride in jeans.
Not having needed (thank God) the protection aspect as of yet, I do not now how well they will perform. And as for durability for such stuff as zippers and stitching etc., time will tell.
I would recommend them.
November 17, 2014