Klim Badlands Pro Pants
waterproof for sure
i just got back from a rainy 4-day ride through the mountains of western and SW VA. my legs and feet and head were the only comfortable parts of me, thanks to my klim badlands pants, nolan N-104 helmet and aerostich combat-lite boots.
i had nothing underneath but moto-skivvies shorts and went through a lot of cold rain. none got up into my legs from below or down from above or in from outside, and i did NOT feel any coldness from convection, which really surprised me given that my bare skin was against the pants.
the knee armor stayed in the right place all the time and although there's no getting around the clown-pants styling, i wasn't wearing these to impress the ladies, but for functionality.
the only thing i didn't get to test was the venting. there was no hot, humid weather on this trip, but i can say for sure that with the front and rear vents open on the one day it didn't rain, i did NOT feel any air flow. i'm riding a naked airhead and in the upright position, the pants lay flat against my leg, leaving no open space for air to flow. so i am not holding out a lot of hope that these will be "cool" particularly.
the main thing is protection and dryness, and these pants did the job i asked of them.
August 12, 2014
A Resounding Yes To Dry.
I received my Klim Badlands Pro Pants and Klim Badlands Pro Hi Vis Jacket on 7th July 2014 and have already experienced frosts at temperatures down to -3C (26.6F), That’s a wind chill factor of about -6C (21.2F) when travelling at 100Km/h (62 miles/hour) hail and sleet and have also experienced several torrential downpours. Its mid-winter here. I purchased this gear so that I could use it all year around and in all conditions. My commute is over 100Km (63 Miles) round trip and I put on about 30,000Km per year (18,640 Miles) so I needed gear that would hold up and do the job. That’s the promise of Klim…
Am I happy with this gear and was it worth the cash? Let’s start with the cost. Jacket & Pants $1,549.98 USD, Shipping $70.67 USD, Total $1,620.65 USD, Then came the exchange rate which bumped the cost up to $1,838.85 NZ, plus GST and duty, grand total of $2,114.68 NZ . You are paying for the excellent quality and the name. Am I happy with it? Let’s just say that I like it but it is a lot of money.
The Klim Badlands Pro Pants (Size 36) looks cool. (A photo with my measurements has been supplied with this review). I can put two layers of clothing on in the form of thermals: this makes the fit snug around my waist. After reading all of the reviews I thought that the pants would be bigger on me, this is not the case. (Thanks to “Rafael Nieves” from RevZilla Customer Service for pointing me in the right direction in regards to sizing). I need to lose some weight from around my middle:-)) If you are any bigger than what my measurements in the photo show then I would recommend getting the next size up.
I purchased the Klim Badlands Pro Pants because I was sick of getting a wet crutch. The big question is do they keep me dry and warm? The answer is a resounding yes to dry, I couldn’t be happier with them on that score. As far as warm goes, the Gore-tex® 3-layer pro shell transmits the cold and you do feel it, even the cold rain. I get cold spots at the base of the ventilation zips and around the crutch area even with two layers of thermals on. At first I thought that the pants maybe leaking, this was not the case. Again after reading the reviews I would have thought that the pants would have been a little warmer.
In conclusion, would I recommend them? When I look at the price that I paid then it’s hard to say yes. I think that you could buy gear that performs the same without the large cost. The question is will the Klim gear last the distance that would justify the additional cost? Only time will tell.
July 21, 2014
Just finished a 1600 mile trip in AK where I wore these everyday. It takes a few days to break them in, but the fabric really softens up.
My only complaint is the velcro for adjusting the knee pads can chafe if it isn't attached properly. I only wore underwear underneath the pants, and I was plenty warm.
July 14, 2014
Liking these pants
I bought the Badlands Pro Jacket last year and decided to upgrade my pants this year. So far these pants are working out well.
I'm a size 36 in jeans so bought the 34 pants and these just fit. If I wasn't in a weight loss program then I would have gone with the size 36.
As others have said, knee pads are a little strange. I think they are ok for basic riding but if you are doing a lot of off-road you may want to consider wearing something else. I'm still playing getting them to fit the way I would like.
One of the best features is the all-in-one water proof design. I wore the Badlands Pro jacket in all kinds of weather last year and being able to just ride through the rain without needed to stop and put on rain gear is great. I've not had the pants in rain but I expect the same performance. Additionally, you don't need to pack rain gear.
Air flow is good when you open up all the vents. I went from cold mornings with vents closed to warm afternoons with vents open and was comfortable in both conditions. They guys I was riding with had to stop to strip off cold weather layers halfway though the ride - I just opened the vents and waited for them to pack their clothes.
July 1, 2014
Comfort and protection!
I have stayed totally dry in several rain storms wearing these pants. I have opened the vents but did not get much airflow, mostly due to the width of my bike.
June 26, 2014
Bomber Badlands Pants
My first ride in the Badlands got me through a torrential rain which drove most cars off the road. This was made worse by a course of pea-sized hail minutes later. The pants kept me completely dry and protected. While wearing them I feel like a knight in black armor. Honestly, I did not feel the hail even at 60 mph. The D3O armor is more stiff than I had imagined but I'll bet it softens up after time. Speaking of which, the textile is stiff out of the box but also softens with use and now feels natural on my body even with the armor in place. As far as protection is concerned these pants are amazing. I get the impression I could not slide enough down the tarmac to wear a hole through to my skin. If only they could protect me from a head on collision.
The black color is pleasing to the eye and I have not felt hot in them yet! I was worried about the color cooking me like a dutch oven but I still couldn't get myself to buy grey since it makes me look like a manatee near collapse. Anyway, with all of the ventilation ports (one on the front and back of each thigh) I have not had any problems keeping cool. My first complaint, and minor at that, is that the butt of the pant is baggy. I suspect these textiles don't really stretch much and KLIM did not want them to bind when sitting. On the other hand, the crotch is a bit snug. So snug that I moved up from a size 32 to a 34 at the waist. I thought the larger size might bunch up creating saddle sores but this has not happened at all.
Overall, I love the pants but feel a bit ashamed when wearing them since most of my friends know how much they cost. You can't by a Porsche in a small town without everyone thinking you are pretentious and the cost of the pants creates somewhat of the same vibe. Other than this, the pants are great but I honestly have bought just as technical, perhaps more refined, Alpine skiing gear and have paid less. Having said that, I do not intend to return this pair of Badlands Bad$%# pants so my friends will have to get used to them.
June 2, 2014
so far so good
I've only had a chance so far to wear these pants twice, as soon as I put them on though I knew immediately that they had a tighter fit than my dakar pants. These pants do have large side vents that don't seem to work at 100% on my triumph tiger this is most likely due to my seating position. I also find there isn't enough room under the pants to wear a pair of blue jeans, obviously these aren't over pants but, for a short commute to work in the rain I suggest packing your work attire elsewhere.
May 25, 2014
Trade offs -- make sure you know what you want
Good pants. Spent a lot of time researching them. I ride off road a lot and highway a lot.
These are definitely waterproof. i found myself wading through a swamp. These things did not let a drop of water through. 100% waterproof.
They fit big. I could (and do) wear them as over pants. Which is fine or even good in the winter but bad in the summer. Its already a heavy hot fabric, last thing you want in a desert ride or ilding in the hot summer is layers. If you don't plan to wear something under, consider buying a size smaller. That is my biggest regret.
The knee pads are in a weird spot. The velcro that is supposed to allow adjustment of placement would work if the velcro was strong enough. The pads just slip to the bottom position. Always. The pads are big and bulky and look odd, but you will have confidence that they will help in an off. I have fallen low speed in dirt and been totally fine.
You have to really ask yourself what kind of riding you are doing. I do long dakar style rallies, These are good pants for that, with some modification. They would suck for highway touring, commuting or even day trips in the dirt. There are good pants for each of those applications, but it aint these. As an all-in one solution it falls short. For the price, you would be better buying a good set of dirt pants for dirt riding and a good set of leathers for touring / highway rides and probably still be cheaper.
No one can beat these for rally style or long off road trips though..
May 20, 2014