Rukka Armas Jacket
Only Good for Extreme Winter Driving on Touring Bike
I've had the Rukka Armas jacket for about 6 weeks. I purchased it for winter riding. IMO this jacket is excellent for cold weather - touring type riding, but not good for much else. First, the positives:
- It's warm. I've driven in 30 degrees F for 2+ hours on the highway at 70 mph and not been even slightly cold. It's excellent at keeping you warm, but not overheated. The Outlast lining seems to do exactly what it promises.
- Appears to be watertight. I don't ride in the rain if I can help it, and haven't tried it with this jacket, but the seams, shell, zippers,etc seem over-engineered to keep water out
- It's very high quality. The fabrics, stitching, zippers (with one exception see below) etc. appear to be very high quality. Rare these days to see that in most garments. Of course, at this price point, you would expect that.
- Appears to add to safety. The armor placement, abrasion resistant panels, etc are excellent.
- It looks cool. Very high tech look.
- Works great with Rukka pants. It zippers to the pants for a great cold weather riding suit.
- The Gore Lockout main zipper is TERRIBLE. This is the primary and OVERWHELMING weakness of the jacket. Rukka should eliminate this zipper and go with something else. It is basically a super thick version of the zip seam on a zip-lock bag. It's way too difficult to zip, VERY FREQUENTLY opens up unexpectedly, and I am worried it will not last more than a couple of seasons. Rukka provides a silicone stick to help lubricate the zipper and make it work better, and it does help, but it doesn't do much. On several instances, the zipper has opened up mid way in the center of my chest while riding (stays fastened at the top and bottom). At that point the only thing you can do is pull over, get off the bike, and re-zip it (which will take at least 5 minutes to get right). I cannot emphasize enough how ridiculous this zipper is to operate.
- This jacket is VERY heavy and VERY stiff. I have several other motorcycle jackets, and none of them are even close to how heavy this thing is. I've replaced the standard armor with D30, but this only helped a bit. If you are driving a touring bike in an upright position, it's fine/doesn't impact you as much, but if you are on any kind of bike with a forward position e.g. sport bike, sport touring, cafe, etc. the jacket severely restricts your motion and you will feel it impacting your riding.
- Odd fit - I bought the size 54. I wear about a 44 size suit, and generally am a L if not a numbered size. The torso and shoulders fit fine, but the sleeves are ridiculously narrow... you would need pencil thin arms to fit comfortably. Weird.
If it had a regular zipper, I'd rate it a 4 star. If it had a regular zipper, was not heavy/overweight, and had better fit and flexibility, it would be a 5 star without question.
November 24, 2014
Expensive but Awesome
I've had this jacket a full year and have ridden in temperatures down to 5 degrees F at highway speed and I was able to accomplish everything I wanted to during the past winter. I'm an everyday rider/commuter and this was my only jacket during the winter in Washington, DC. From 50F to 20F this jacket performs extremely well and chances are you will not face much discomfort when wearing it. When it drops into the teens and lower, yes, you will get chilly over time and may think about adding some heated gear, or just stop to warm up (I don't own any heated gear). If it's above 40F I will take out the liner and be fine with a long-sleeve shirt. If it's above 60 I usually switch to a cooler jacket.
This thing is 100% water and wind proof and will simply amaze you when you take it off and realize how dry you are after riding in a downpour. One thing I will say is I sometimes wish it was a 3/4 length as the back being waste length can creep up on you if you have a more forward riding position. I notice this when the temps start to dip, so I am not sure if this would cause an issue for the sportier riders. If you are sitting upright I think it will be fine but in the extreme cold just remember to tuck in your undershirt so you don't get cold air on your back.
I agree with others that Rukka could make this cheaper but I believe in investing in safety and comfort and that's exactly what you are doing with this jacket. Just don't tell your friends/coworkers how much you spent or they will likely call you crazy (though they may have just dropped 60 grand on a luxury car). Overall I highly recommend this product and I hope that you get as much use out of it as I have mine.
June 29, 2014
good jacket overall
Ordered this jacket for rain/winter to not have to deal with waterproof liners I need to use in my other jacket. Build quality of this jacket is superb. Fit is on the large side. The collar is too tight however, I am sure it is waterproof but this sacrifices comfort and it is borderline uncomfortable. This is a good looking jacket with plenty of pockets and features, probably too warm for warm weather but that is ok.
The one major negative however that I dock this jacket two stars for is the absolutely pathetic 'armor' at this price point. Really Rukka? I mean seriously why bother. Unacceptable for a jacket that costs this much.
We will see how this new zipper style holds up.
May 22, 2014
Chokes me to send it back
After a lot of research and trying on jackets that can be obtained locally (Klim, RevIt BMW) I decided to order what looked to be the very best jacket on the market. It is certainly very well made and provides exceptional protection from the elements as well as abrasion.
I had 3 criteria for my jacket; hi viz, protection, and comfort.
I'm 6'2" and 195lbs with a 44" chest and I ordered a size 54 which was the right sleeve length and chest size.
After trying the jacket on I found the that the collar was very uncomfortable. The fixed neoprene collar roll is too high (up to my ears) and the front part of the collar where the zipper is housed is bulky, and pressed on the front part of my neck. Imagine wearing a shirt and tie with neck size one too small. It restricted me turing my head, but he biggest problem was that I felt like I was gagging....I figured it would get worse with wind pressure on it and could not see wearing it for extended periods. So sadly I am returning it and will look for something more comfortable.
The other grip I have is the armour that comes with it - I upgraded to D30 for elbows and shoulders and a Forcefield CE2 Back Protector. The D30 makes the jacket more comfortable. The Forcefield adds a fair amount of weight which contributed to the collar issue.
BTW the guys at Revzilla were great about returning the jacket and pants (I ordered well over $2k) I would not hesitate to order from them again because if somethings not right they are great about you returning it if it's not right.
April 6, 2014
Comfortable and completely weatherproof
The Armas is the ideal cool-to-cold weather jacket. It's really comfortable, the Outlast liner provides a surprising amount of warmth and temperature flexibility, and the shell is completely weatherproof. The build quality of the jacket is really good, and the materials are top-shelf. I'm sure that the abrasion protection is adequate, though I hope never to test that aspect.
I use the Armas jacket with the Argonaut pants and the Apollo or R-Star 2-in-1 gloves.
January 24, 2014
What an amazing product. I truly regret not having ordered this product sooner. Retrospectively, this was all I needed, not the other 5 jackets I have
What an amazing product. I truly regret not having ordered this product sooner. Retrospectively, it seems rather ironic, that I don't even wear anything else, but this jacket. That's the only one I needed, not the other 5 jackets, that I have purchased because of one or the other reason.
The style goes with my sport bike and the sport cruiser. The fit is perfect. The quality is simply awesome.
Protection? I hear it's great, but I don't know (I rather not test it, but I want to believe it is as advertised. Likely no protective gear could safe anyone driving over 80 miles an hour against a rail or a vehicle. You just need lot's of good luck :) & whole bunch of good karma :).
Nothing negative about this product, but only good, except it's price! It is a great deterrent to make you buy at first glance. But, once you spoil yourself, there is no going back to anything else :)
January 3, 2014
Very high quality
Great jacket, feels indestructible on. Comfy but heavy. Not for summer riding, great for winter though.
December 24, 2013
Way too Expensive
I wanted to leave a quick review with a few key call-outs after having just received this jacket. Let me qualify my comments by saying I have not ridden in it as I am not sure if I am going to keep it yet but here are my initial thoughts.
1. Very secure feeling with plenty of adjustments to cinch the jacket down.
2. Not too bulky due to having a relatively thin but efficient outlast thermal liner.
3. Short cut, waist length which will suit a wide range of riding styles.
4. Great gaiter / cuff system which allows modest gauntlet gloves to sit under the cuff, thus sealing out the elements.
5. Comfortable collar and neck gaiter.
6. Looks pretty gnarly for a textile jacket.
1. Way, way too expensive for what you are getting. This should be an $800-$900 jacket (with $500-$600 matching pants).
2. The thing shouts "Scandanavian!" and this is mentioned a lot in Anthony's excellent video but, to be clear, this jacket clearly states "Made in China" on it.
3. The armor is all basic, level 1. You have to shell out more cash to get the good d3o stuff (after having spent $1300 plus already).
4. A few exposed areas of stitching on the shoulder of this particular jacket have shoddy stitching.
5. Sizing is a bit off. I am usually a textbook EU50 but went down to a 48 in this - I feel it is still just slightly baggy (I'm 5'11", 165 pounds, 40" chest).
At a slightly lower price (say, sub $1k) most of the shortcomings could be overlooked but I expect one of the most expensive jackets on the market to be perfectly constructed, be fitted with the level 2 armor out of the box and to be made in or near the country the brand and marketing suggest. I would really love to keep it but when I look at the price then think about how much I need to spend to get the matching pants and see $2200 blown on a single textile, CE level 1 suit all I can think about is how much Dainese, Revit or Alpinestars gear, etc I could buy. The only thing I can't complain about is Revzilla's excellent service (as always).
December 11, 2013