Michelin Pilot Road 4 Trail Tires
Not good tread life
I put a set of these on my Triumph Tiger Explorer and I am going to need to change out the rear tire again. It is a softer compound than the standard PR4s. (When I bought the tire the trail was the only one I could get.) I am not even going to get the life that the stock tires got. I got 14K out of the stock tires which are known for being soft. I am at 11K right now and just starting to hit the wear bars. Maybe they would work better on a lighter bike with less horse power. Most all of my riding is pavement but I don't ride aggressive, I am a commuter and like to take road trips.
September 4, 2015
R1200GS Pilot 4 upgrade from Pilot 3
The new model is very similar to the prior Pilot 3. The main difference appears to be the trend pattern and in my opinion a bit better looking for what that matters.
After the initial break-in period (150 miles), which by the way can be squirrelly, especially in the rain, the tires are every bit as good as the Pilot 3. Maybe a slight bit gripper.
I would recommend them for the R1200GS especially in rainy climates and geared up. Prior Conti's were terrible in the rain.
The review on trend life is premature and based on the Pilot 3s which gave me 9,000 miles.
August 31, 2015
Great Tire for Heavy Bikes
Overall, I'm very happy with these tires on my BMW R1200GS (150/70R17), with loads between 720 and 900 pounds. The tires ARE NOT designed for trail riding, despite their name, but can survive low pressure, off road riding (personal experience?). Again, I would not recommend them for off road riding. The only time the tires let go was acceleration across an oil patch on asphalt- think six hour old oil dump from a car. I recovered but it was a close thing! Finally, the mileage for the weight is good- I got about 10,000 miles out of the rear and could probably double the distance on the front. Now for the details!:
Pros (10k miles on rear/ ~20k miles on front):
- High mileage tire for larger bikes
- Renowned for water and wet pavement handling
- Sturdy construction can handle low pressure riding
- Not meant for dual purpose riding (STREET ONLY)
- Tire cupping and center wear at higher miles
- Noticeable noise at higher mileage
August 1, 2015
I don't understand the high ratings these get
So last summer after reading all of the rave reviews I decided to stick a new pair of PR4 Trails on my Explorer 1200 for a trip from Colorado to Alaska then back by way of Seattle. This was a 2-up trip with bags, mostly on road (some construction zones with rock chips and gravel), with 7300 miles of pavement. These tires were shot after only 3500 miles, and I mean shot. They Trail version is not the same material as the standard PR4s. They are much softer. Their grip was so-so, and I even lost traction completely on a oily wet pavement spot up in Anchorage on one occasion. I put K60 on the bike in Seattle and was much happier with those across the board (except they are slightly noisier). Even the K60s were pretty poor on hard pack dirt, so beware of those too.
July 3, 2015
Great performance, but ...
Obviously these are great road tires for big bikes like my GSA. Unfortunately I had a couple of issues which I would like to point out. First the front tire is a real bear when it comes to setting the bead. Even a seasoned pro (who did initial installation) had a very hard time. Almost impossible at home by yourself. Secondly after about 6,000 miles the front started to cup and as a result became a little noisy at lower speeds. Rear tread was almost gone at 6,800 miles so I swapped them out this time for Pirelli Scopion Trail II. These look to be what I want and I had no trouble mounting them myself. Hope they work out better.
June 23, 2015
Seriously great grip on a GSW
I ride 98% road on a 14 GSW and all the reviews about this tire are well founded. Both wet and dry these tires will offer more grip than you're used to having at big lean angles and you'll embarrass a lot of the super sport bike pilots. I dont commute - just ride twisty roads at weekends. At 5,200 miles the front is looking good - about 1/4 - 1/2 worn but still has the original profile and no cupping. The rear cupps up easily and is on the side wear marks now (but cupping never given any issue). Probably another 1,000 miles on the center if you were cruising/commuting. Long time since I've not had to buy a front and rear together. Excellent tire! Gravel roads... well take it very easy as these are a road tire and it's slippery - particularly in the front.
June 8, 2015
Perfect for what they are designed for
I wanted my F800 GS to handle as best as possible, for all weather road conditions, and 5% offroad. 4th gen Trail tire did just that. I cannot get the rear to break free on dry, even wet roads. While riding fully loaded 2 up on wet, packed dirt, the rear would not break free. What do I buy for the front tire? They don't make a 21" so I need to find the best compared. "
Now that I have this on the rear, what front tire do I get for my F800 GS? They don't make a 21" Pilot 4. I need something that can handle road in the wet. My options seem limited.
May 26, 2015
better ride quality
replaced the Anakee tires on my 2013 BMW GS 1200 LC. I chose the Michelins as I have used their tires in the past on other BMW's. I am not an off-roader. I found the tires to be considerably quieter and smoother. Bike feels and handles great. After 2500 miles a flat spot is developing in the center, but no feathering of the edges has occurred yet. For touring I would recommend this tire.
May 4, 2015