Metzeler Tourance NEXT Tires
Great street tire
I am very hard on tires, and spend most of my time in tight twisty pavement, running a brisk pace, with an occasional dirt road thrown in.
Wear: To keep it short and sweet tire wear 4500 miles, and for the first time in my long riding life, the front wore out BEFORE the rear! Might have had another 1000+ miles in the rear, as it had 4/32 when front was close to 0. Better than scorpion trail, worse than Anakee 3 as a set.
Traction: Great! feels like a sport bike tire, great feel and traction on most pavement wet or dry, but as commented by others, has a tendency to follow grooves and move around on tar snakes when compared to Anakee 3, which are the most resistant tire to that tracking I have ever ridden.
Value: Average bang for $$
I would consider again.
February 20, 2016
Completely perfect for my 2015 Kawasaki KLR long distance touring
After 2800 miles on the stock dunslops tires when I purchased the 2015 Kawasaki KLR 650 in August there were a few things I noticed. Primarily that the bike began to shake extensively at 55 to 60 on and it was from both the front and rear allowing the bike to dance all over the place at 70. Vibrating all over the place is a bit of a concern as I use it daily and have the bike set up for long range interstate touring not really interested in playing in the dirt trails regardless of the origin. The second issue on the original dunslops was the fact that lean angle was limited as there were a few moments where I could feel the side knobbies talking back saying you are leaning too much. Factor in the poor traction on pavement or asphalt if you needed to stop short due to someone cutting you off or pulling out in front of you and you simply have a disaster waiting to happen.
I received the replacement tourance next tires and changed them out myself then having the local dealer balance the front and rear tires properly. Once I had the new tires on the bike and mounted I put about a hundred miles plus on before I wanted to see what changes would take place. Again I use the bike about 90% road commuting and 10% trails so application wise I am perfect with this tire for commuting and touring.
The changes that I have found are as follows;
1.) Absolutely zero vibration at 85mph front or rear.
2.) The bike is incredible at highway speeds.
3.) Lean angles are much better and safer however be mindful of any debris on the roadway but that is for any tire.
4.) The tire compound is equal to that or an adhesive on the basis that short panic style stops are much more controllable and you are not sliding all over the place as you would be with the stock dunslop tires.
5.) I will not know mileage for fuel or tire life for a while due to the fact the change out was recent but I will update.
6.) Absolutely better control of the bike in traffic or while going on a long ride be it for lean angle, starting, stopping, and performance overall a completely different bike which is just fantastic.
The international touring will be in the future and from there I will most likely go after the Karoo 3’s simply based on the performance of the Metzeler product line. Overall the bike is completely changed and overall riding is so much better.
December 30, 2015
4500 miles of good times
I've been through several sets of Anakee 2's, A set of 3's, three sets of Conti TA's, Old-school Metzler Tourance's and TKC'80's.
The bike I put these on is a 2010 F800GS, 150/70/17 rear, 90/90/21 front.
I levered on a set of the NEXT's in search of more grip with neutral handling. 4500 miles of riding and the front tire is about 1000 miles away from the wear bars. Normally I'd run the tires to the wear bars but in this case I have a long weekend (1200 miles) scheduled up to Monterey in a couple weeks and with the pending El Nino I'm not taking chances so I changed the tires a bit early.
I liked the handling of the tire and the stick is absolutely best in class on the street. Wet traction is decent and the tire is very predictable.
The front tire is a single compound while the rear is a dual compound with a harder center. My front has worn out long before the rear tire. I attribute this to heavy front braking and aggressive riding. This is remarkable because in all my years of riding this is the first time I've worn the front out before the rear.
I was hoping to get 7,000 out of the set so I'm a tad disappointed there. I suspect on a long tour one might get 10k out of the tires with a lot of freeway travel. The front tire also tends to grab the rain grooves just a bit when new. After 500 miles that mostly went away.
I bought the tires for the Stick and that they did. No complaints there.
I'm going to try the new Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2's as a replacement. If they stick like the NEXTs, don't track the rain grooves and the front lasts 7k then I may have my new best tire.
November 14, 2015
OK tires, maybe not right for a Ulysses
I'll break it down and then summarize my experience with these tires.
Bang for the buck: they're not cheap but they're not the most expensive. I got mine on sale.
Grip: no complaints. Seems to hold well leaned over and loaded up, gravel traction is acceptable.
Tread life: kind of disappointing. I bought into the dual compound thing and they are wearing out pretty fast. I've done about 4000 miles on them and the rear is noticeably flattened in the middle. I was hoping to get to 8000 before noticeable wear. The Michelin Pilot Roads got 10,000 before looking well used.
Wet traction: it is fine. I spent a few hundred miles in the heavy rain and only had one pucker on a particularly slick corner that my beemer friends on Anakees also slid around.
My biggest complaint about the tires is they make the bike feel really weird at low speed. Maybe the front tire's profile is taller than the bike was designed for or something. The front tire resists bar input in parking lots. At speed they don't turn in as quickly as the Pilot Roads or Scorpion Syncs. I think they're just wrong for the Ulysses. Once these are done I probably won't buy another set.
October 1, 2015
Happy getting 9k miles and 3 track days on my ADV bike!
Definitely happy with these tires I bought a second set. I ride mostly canyons at spirted paces and these never disappointed. Did a lot of California fire roads and was surprise how capable they were and that's coming from someone without a lot of off road experience. Rode a few times in the rain and still was impressed. However when it came down to getting a new set I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Trail II as they were ranked #1 by a German motorcycle magazine. Last year the same magazine rated the Tourance NEXTs #1. This year they finished in second.
September 29, 2015
Love these tires
I have about 1,000 miles on these now, about 90/10 road/dirt. They grip very well, including when coming across and unexpected patch of dirt or gravel in a blind corner. They have also done well in the rain for me.
I have them on a 2005 1200GS
September 14, 2015
I like the tires.
Real neutral feel to them. I did like the Pilor Trails better
June 16, 2015
Just installed my third set
I got 9K out the first set, 9K again out of the second.Fantastic grip on wet pavement, best choice for year-around riding in Seattle.
Also comes in size 180 and 190 for the rear. For the last two sets I went with the 180, which clears the swing arm just fine and handles just as well. You could probably even fit the 190, but I didn't want the increased weight.
March 9, 2015