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Klim's all-new Overland Jacket is the perfect evolution of dual-sport riding gear. With roots firmly planted in the off-road credibility of the Traverse line, the new Overland Jacket incorporates simple updates in armor, fit and visibility that bring maximum performance for the light and fast adventure crowd. D3O T5 EVO XT range elbow and shoulder armor pieces and D30 BP XT Level 1 back armor are included to make this a complete, multi-use offering. All-weather comfort is guaranteed with GORE-TEX Performance Shell main body construction and nothing says durability more than Klim's off-road engineered 840D Cordura overlays. If you're taking your first steps into Adventure and Adventure Touring, the all-new Overland series is a tremendous value.

Exterior Features:

  • Gore-Tex 2-layer Performance Shell laminate technology
  • Guaranteed to keep you dry
  • 840D Cordura overlays in high wear areas: elbow, forearm and shoulders
  • 3M Scotchlite industrial grade reflective material placement for increased dark visibility

Integrated Armor System:

  • D3O T5 EVO XT range elbow and shoulder armor included (meets or exceeds Level 1 limb protector certification PREN1621-1:2011)
  • D3O BP XT Back Protector (CE Certified to Level 1 EN1621-2)

Additional Features:

  • Max flow ventilation system features 4 vents
  • 2 vertical zippered front torso intake vents
  • 2 vertical zippered rear torso exhaust vents
  • 3 external pockets (2 zippered hand pockets, 1 zippered left chest pocket)
  • 1 zippered internal chest pocket with headphone port
  • Adjustable forearm sleeve strap
  • Adjustable Velcro brand closure at wrist cuffs
  • Inner wrist cuff gasket blocks weather from infiltrating up sleeve
  • Articulated sleeve fit for increased riding comfort
  • Adjustable top collar via shock cord and lock
  • Adjustable bottom jacket hem via shock cord and lock
  • Headphone loops on inner collar
  • Glove-friendly zipper pulls
  • Wicking mesh liner
  • YKK Zippers used throughout - water resistant zippers used in exposed areas

Note:  External cargo pockets on the Klim Overland Jacket are water resistant, not waterproof. Klim recommends use of waterproof, internal pockets for items that must remain dry.

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Awesome Jacket I am 6'10" and it is hard to find jackets. I went and tried this on at a shop and couldn't believe it was long enough in arms and overall length. I love doing this cause when the salesman said Are you ready? I said Na, my boys at revzilla take care of me just fine. I am taking it to morocco and I wanted a Goretex jacket with lightweight durability. Exactly what this is. Klim makes great, strong, reliable MERCH. February 9, 2015
Quality product This is my second Klim jacket. The first one I did not like the horizontal vent in the back and armpit vents because I could not safely open & close while on the bike. This one solved that problem with vertical side vents. Unfortunately the sleeves were about 1-1/2 inches too short as with the first Klim I bought.( I need 36" sleeves). Should not have purchased, but could not overcome the temptations of high quality, functionality and gore tex. Both are great jackets, just not for me because of sleeve length. January 20, 2015
My new fav jacket Great design by Klim. Looks sharp without making you feel like a Power Ranger. The armour is ok, combined with Gore-tex makes this jacket an unbeatable value. Also, what's the deal with Klim raising the prices on this jacket? Now they are just being greedy. November 30, 2014
First rate jacket I've only had the jacket a short time, so these are my initial impressions. I'm 5'7" 185 and got a size medium. It is a tad snug, but I'm sure a large would be way too big. Overall, I'm very pleased with the jacket--it seems to be of high quality. One big thing: it is comfortable. A curiosity, however. There's a snap on the zipper pull for the outer chest pocket, and I can't find anything that would logically attach to the snap. I emailed Revzilla and Klim and no one knows why there's a snap there. It's not a mistake because you can see a snap in the same place on the jacket in the video. (Haven't tested durability) November 17, 2014
Fantastic This is a great all around jacket. I'm 6'3" around 200lbs and while a Large probably would have fit fine, I went with the XL for the sleeve length and the extra room for layering in cold weather. Without layers it is a little billowy when riding and could do with some more cinching around the torso, but it doesn't really bother me. I plan to wear this primarily in cooler and cold temps so the extra room for layers is more important. With the vents open and no layers it was comfortable into the low 70s, but any higher would start to get too warm for me. With the vents shut and some layers this jacket is comfortable into the 40s. The Goretex works as expected, keeping me dry and warm during a few showers this past weekend. Very pleased with this jacket. October 14, 2014
This jacket is good! I live in a city that has the most unpredictable weather on earth. So, this jacket is perfect because it has ventilation zippers for that high temperature days, and the Gore Tex technology helps you when the rain doesn't have mercy on you. It is just perfect! Also includes back, shoulders and elbows protection. Cool! October 7, 2014
Excellent all weather jacket I practically lived in this jacket on a 2700 mile trip from Oregon through Montana. I experienced rains and smokey forest fires. I also wear it commuting in Oregon rainy weather, very dry. In the heat, the zip vents work great. A very "boxy" cut, but that allows nice layering with my down jacket for colder weather. The neck pulls up tight very nicely to keep out the chill, I am impressed with how well it works without being uncomfortable. Fits true to size. August 4, 2014
Great Product for on and off road and more I love Klim and their products. The Overland is just a great jacket. The material is durable, assembled with great workmanship, it keeps water and wind off but helps your skin breathing; it looks good and it feels good. When in NY the snow is up our knees i take the padding off and wear it as an everyday jacket. It doesn't have a great deal of pockets (I love cargo pockets) so i am forced to travel lean and light. Ventilation is also good even though the top of the back doesn't get much airflow when it's hot out. The latch on the neck is a bit tight and cannot be adjusted (a minus) but when the velcro is closed i get full protection. No major complains there. the padding goes well around elbows/shoulders/back for added protection. I bought the grey coloured jacket and now i am thinking to buy the pants too even though it is another is expense. Pay attention to wask the jacket with the zip up so not to damage the zip and the meash on the jacket. Well done Klim. July 31, 2014
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RevZilla Store asked: Why did you choose this?
H O: Like most, don't like the idea of a waterproof liner under a non-waterproof jacket nor having to carry a rain jacket that doesn't breathe. Plus, Goretex and Cordura is a good combination. Works well up to 90's as long as moving. Fellow riders are noticing and purchasing Klim. Commissions???? Sep 16, 2014
Tom K: Has armor integrated. Gore tex shell. Ventilation on the back that will not be obstructed by a backpack. Simple. Jul 8, 2014
Larry S: Wanted a waterproof, windproof jacket to wear most of the riding season but yet able to open up the vents for 80's degree temps, this item fits that bill. Jun 20, 2014
Stuart M: Had a small off yesterday (bloody roadworks) and shredded the previous jacket. This looks like it provides good climate control for Sydney weather, and touring around. Jun 17, 2014
Don M: I want true waterproof, I want decent levels of crash protection and I want comfort. I don't want heavy and limiting of my movement, I ride to feel free. This jacket looks well made and designed (waist cinching aside). I chose this jacket to meet my criteria as well for the reviews I have seen of Klim equipment. I also chose it because Klim have kept working on their design (neck comfort for example) which shows a company that does care about the quality of their products. Also a sensible price! Jun 4, 2014
Adam S: Brand reputation, waterproof, not obviously motogear, ability to do my own layering, design and materials. Also, because I'm not sure whether I'll choose the Overland or the Rukka AirRider so I'm taking advantage of RevZilla's consumer friendly policies. Thanks for that. Jun 3, 2014
Edward C: Great price for Gore Tex May 12, 2014
Thomas B: Klim has good quality reputation, jacket had features I was most concerned with (armor type and amount, material type). Mar 31, 2014
Fernando N: Great look and wanted to try KLIM Brand. The manufacture seems to be top notch. Mar 14, 2014
George K: For the great reviews and your awesome web sight Mar 14, 2014
Greg B: Want to stay dry and layer under the jacket as needed. Dec 30, 2013
TOMAS L: because i think is very good product accordin the specs that is saw in revzilla page Dec 9, 2013
John S: I like high quality gear and Klim is the best for adventure riding. I also liked all the protective gear that is built into the jacket plus it looks cool! Oct 9, 2013
Artur Carlos B: Good protection and waterproofing Sep 16, 2013
Kalin W: Integrated outer goretex, top brand, top armor, nice styling. Sep 4, 2013
JOSE L asked: Need help making choices. Early next year I have a 10-day adventure trip planned in Ecuador which includes both hot/humid and cold/rain/snow. I was decided on the Overland jacket and pants but then I started to compare it to the Badlands Pro jacket and pants but at almost double the price of the Overland, I was wondering if it was really worth the premium price difference? I see that the Badlands is a 3 -ply Gortex rather than the 2-ply of the Overland. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Jul 21, 2014
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Robert M: I purchased the overland jacket as a commuter jacket and I'm very pleased by the choice. I live in Kansas where the temperature ranges from very hot and humid to freezing cold. I normally don't use the included zip in liners for most jackets as I prefer to use more of a layering method depending on the weather and my destination. The Overland makes layering easy with plenty of room for a fleece or other base layers. I also find the venting of the jacket to be pretty good considering the vents are not designed to direct air into the jacket but seem to be more for letting hot air out. I've ridden with it in 100 degree weather and it is better than other jackets I've had but it is still a waterproof jacket and will get hotter than mesh. I've ridden through some awesome Kansas style thunderstorms and the jacket kept me completely dry when other jackets I've had would have failed.
Overall, I really don't think I would choose anything else. For the price I really do think this is probably the most versatile jacket available. Now that I have the Overland I feel the Badlands really would be overkill for my needs and the way I ride.
Jul 22, 2014
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Scott M: Jose,

I too looked at all the models in the Klim catalog. For me I mainly commute with some longer rides on the weekends. A waterproof shell was my main criteria in looking for a jacket. Naturally I gravitate towards the higher end but couldn't justify the added expense. I did not need 50 pockets, belts, adjustments, or any extra frills. The 3 ply vs. 2 ply construction was my only hang up. I chose the Overland because it fit my needs, wasn't overly complicated or busy. The armor goes unnoticed and doesn't inhibit movement. I think if I were going on an expedition, I would probably choose the Traverse line. Still durable without any extra bells and whistles. I like the idea of layering for the climate, just the shell when warm, layered up when cold. With the Overland, I am very pleased with the quality. I'm 6', 300 lbs. and chose a 3xl. The fit/cut is spot on except for the arms are a little tight, but I have pretty big forearms. Hope this helps, good luck!
Jul 23, 2014
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Fred Z: While I think this is a great jacket for the price, I'm not sure it will meet your needs. With the lack of ventilation and lack of a warm liner, it wouldn't do well in extreme conditions - cold or hot.

My biggest problem with this jacket is that it only has 2 vent zips on the front, and 2 on the back. While they are large vents, there are jackets with more ventilation that would work better for hot weather.

The jacket also has a minimal amount of pockets and adjustment straps which hurts the utility. I would look at some of the higher end Klim jackets or some other brands that would have a greater amount of versatility for the same price point.
Jul 22, 2014
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Robert P: Jose,

Sounds like a great trip. Since I have not used a Badlands Pro kit I can't make a comparison. The only thing I'll offer is that the Overland works well to keep me pretty dry in 1-2 hours of rainy wet weather. In heavy or pouring rain I usually put on a yellow rain suit for visibility.

Keep in mind that it's not really a summer jacket. The 4 vents are Ok but you can get pretty warm and sweaty in sustained hot/humid conditions. If I was wearing this jacket/pants in a sun-baked area or in continually hot conditions I might go with the lighter color. Have fun!

Jul 22, 2014
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Carl T: The overland is a good jacket but it just the shell. You have to add or subtract layers. I use it with heated gear in cold weather and find it to be great. The badlands comes with everything but the overland when used with the right layers can be very effective. So my answer would be the badlands ic worth the price if you really want it but the overland is a great alternative to save money . Just watch the sizing they seem a little smaller then I'm used to but they may have designed intentionally that way for the waterproofing.(sleeves have tight opening, shoulders were normal) Jul 22, 2014
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Mark B: I was riding in the rain over mountain passes two days ago. Didn't get wet in my jacket. A bit cool but I could have put a down liner in without a prob. In the heat you will be hot and sweaty. I found I like to zip the bottom zipper up to open the air flow. It's a double zipper. I also took out the back pad. It's a good jacket. Jul 22, 2014
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Matthew H: Jose, I just wore the Klim Overland pants and jacket on an 8 day riding trip in Northern Vietnam this past February. We had hot days and very cold days plus a day of heavy rain. My buddies had various brands/types of gear and I was definitely the most comfortable. Don't hesitate, the Overland gear is legitimately great. Jul 22, 2014
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Chris L: no experience with the badlands gear, but my overland jacket has been completely waterproof on my commutes in light rain. Jul 22, 2014
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A shopper asked: Is the included armor removable? Nov 21, 2013
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Scott L: Hi Buyer.

The included armour is removable, and the jacket is durable and nicely detailed. On the negative, the back armour insert is a bit lean. Still, this piece is well worth the price.

Vancouver, Canada
Nov 24, 2013
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Robert P: Yep. It's easily removable. This is a fantastic product. A little warm in the summer but it is robust and high quality. Really keeps you dry in the rain too. Recommended. Nov 21, 2013
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Peter H: Back, shoulder and elbow armor pieces are all removable through velcro openings on the interior of the jacket. Seriously awesome jacket. Nov 21, 2013
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Richard Q: Yes, very easily. Each piece of armor in held in place with in a mech compartment with a Velcro sealed flap. Nov 22, 2013
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Von B: Yes the armor can come out, its in a mesh pouch velcro'd in. Nov 24, 2013
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Bryan C: Totally. Nov 21, 2013
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Steven K: Yes Nov 21, 2013
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Roger R: Yes Nov 21, 2013
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John R asked: looking for a jacket to replace my tourmaster. any type of winter liner included with the jacket .? Sep 23, 2013
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Larry S: The Klim Overland jacket is without any additional liners, other than the mesh liner which is built in and not for warmth or rain.

With that stated, I was previously using a Tourmaster Transition 2 jacket for about 5 years. This Klim Overland jacket is much more of an outer wear jacket by a long shot. It is both warmer and cooler than the Transition 2 jacket without the liner.

For a warmth liner, I used in both jackets the Tourmaster Synergy electric liner. With the liner turned on behind a K1200RS (with GT wind protection) the Klim jacket is good for another 10-20 degrees than the Tourmaster was per heat settings. The Tourmaster just lets too much air in through the fabric, but yet wasn’t that much better if at all in hot temperatures with all vents open then the Overland is. True when using a separate liner such as an electric liner, they are not zipped or attached and will be a separate jacket to remove. This is both a plus and minus, myself, I prefer this so it is easier to change with the day’s riding temperature changes.

Rain, hands down the Klim wins, no contest.

The Overland does not have the same pocket features of the Transition, but again if that is wanted, step up to the Klim Latitude or Badlands for more even $$.
Sep 24, 2013
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edward s: No winter liner. It really is just an expensive shell. To be completely honest, I would not purchase this jacket, nor any other klim product again. I used the jacket for a cross-country summer trip. The jacket was fine for the trip, however, once I returned home and washed the jacket as instructed by klim dealers and the care instructions, the mesh holding the armor tore out. And, contrary to the exceptional reviews about product warranty, I found the company to be just the opposite. They expected me to pay for the repairs. I would go with Revit. You won't find a warmer winter jacket, they have removable layers, and are waterproof. Sorry, if you were sold on the klim, and this is simply my experience. Ride safe. Sep 23, 2013
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Scott M: Hey John,

There is no liner with the Overland. It is just a shell that is meant to wear over layers. I like that feature because in the summer it is fine by itself, then as the seasons change you can add layers as needed. I commute in the Northeast, so I see all types of weather. I like the fact that the Gore-tex is waterproof on the outside. Other brands of jackets say they're waterproof, or have a waterproof membrane but after a couple seasons they leak through. Very pleased with the quality of Klim gear. Highly recommended!!

Sep 24, 2013
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Briceson W: No winter lining. Rode in low 50 degree weather last night with all the vents closed and just a shirt sleeve underneath and was comfortable. If all the vents are closed it does a good job of keeping the wind off you Sep 23, 2013
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Christopher S: No there isn't a liner included. Just has a mesh type liner inside. Sep 23, 2013
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braden c: No liner, gonna have to layer Sep 23, 2013
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William H asked: Is this Klim Overland jacket dark blue and black? It looks dark (or navy) blue in all of the pictures. Sep 4, 2014
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Robert P: William,

Overland jacket is as black as "Smell the glove" by Spinal Tap. Also comes in gray, but I've never seen it in person.

Sep 4, 2014
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Brett G: Its black. It does have a slight bluish look, but for the sake of giving it a color I'd stick with black as blue would not be accurate either. Sep 5, 2014
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gordon h: Not sure, I purchased the grey jacket. Sep 5, 2014
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Jade L: It's black no blue Sep 6, 2014
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braden c: Black Sep 11, 2014
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Jimmy Y asked: I'm currently using an AlpineStars ViperAir jacket , size Large which fits me just nicely.
Would this translate to a size Large also for this jacket?
Mar 25, 2014
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John L: I am 5'11". 180 lb and medium build. For me the large is a bit too big and the med is a bit too small so I went with the large so I can layer under the jacket when its cooler which is mainly when I'll use it. Mar 25, 2014
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Laird H: Fits great in Shoulders and arms but from the chest down it's To Boxie Mar 25, 2014
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Steven K: Yes. Check both jacket size charts Mar 25, 2014
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shannon k: yes Mar 25, 2014
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Faysal I asked: I assume the back armor upgrade would be the Klim D3O Viper T5 Pro Back Protector? May 1, 2014
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We highly recommend finding a cloth tape measure and taking the time to take these measurements.  Klim sizes will not necessarily correlate with fitment in other brands.

Klim Men's Jacket Sizing

Size Weight (lbs) Height (in) Chest (in) Waist (in) Sleeve (in)
XS 70 - 104 59 - 62 32 - 34 24-27 24 - 25
SM 105 - 155 63 - 72 35 - 37 28-31 26 - 27
MD 156 - 186 65 - 72 38 - 41 32-35 28 - 29
LG 187 - 210 66 - 76 42 - 45 36-39 30 - 32
XL 211 - 230 68 - 76 46 - 50 40-43 33 - 34
2XL 231 - 264 68 - 81 51 - 55 44-47 35- 36
3XL 265 - 299 69 - 81 56 - 60 48-51 37- 38
4XL 300 - 349 69 - 81 61 - 65 52-55 39 - 40
5XL 350+ 69 - 81 66 - 70 56-59 41- 42

Sizing information is provided by the manufacturer and does not guarantee a perfect fit.

Click here to see the full Klim Size Chart
Product Style RevZilla Item # Manufacturer Product # Availability
Black / SM 884501 6029-000-120-000 In Stock: Ships next business day
Black / MD 884502 6029-000-130-000 In Stock: Ships next business day
Black / LG 884503 6029-000-140-000 In Stock: Ships next business day
Black / XL 884504 6029-000-150-000 In Stock: Ships next business day
Black / 2XL 884505 6029-000-160-000 In Stock: Ships next business day
Black / 3XL 884512 6029-000-170-000 In Stock: Usually ships in 1-2 business days
Grey / SM 884506 6029-000-120-600 In Stock: Ships next business day
Grey / MD 884507 6029-000-130-600 In Stock: Ships next business day
Grey / LG 884508 6029-000-140-600 In Stock: Ships next business day
Grey / XL 884509 6029-000-150-600 In Stock: Ships next business day
Grey / 2XL 884510 6029-000-160-600 In Stock: Ships next business day
Grey / 3XL 884511 6029-000-170-600 In Stock: Ships next business day

The Overland falls into the Klim food chain as a more light-weight version of something like the Latitude. In recent years, we've seen the Latitude, we've seen the Badlands Pro, the Overland is going to be full-scale Gore-tex. It's a two-layer construction. And remember, it's an outer shell. The Gore-tex liner is not removable; waterproof, breathable, guaranteed for life. You're investing in Gore-tex because it keeps you shielded from Mother Nature, but also allows you to breathe. Remember, I did mention tactical outer shells, which is what Klim does; they let you choose whether it's a thermal liner, or how you want to beef up your base and mid-layers underneath. But really, they're meant to be 4-season pieces of apparel.

The Overland also takes a lot of its inspiration from something like the Traverse, which is an off-road enduro piece that a lot of people were using on the street. The Overland is going to come with your D3O armour; it comes with everything you need right off the rack, and rock-solid. And, watch our detailed breakdown video of the Overland pants by Peter Waring to my left as well. We don't want to break them down. We did that in a separate video. Now keep in mind too, as you're seeing this first glance, click here, subscribe to RevZilla TV, and leave us your comments; love to hear your questions as well.

Let's dive right in on sizing. So, Peter, 6', 195, 42" chest; he has actually a little bit more muscular legs as well on this outfit. You see the way that he's filling it out, but he is wearing a size large. It's the same size that Peter wears in the Traverse. We find the fit is not that much different. One of the things we did notice, and I'm going to nitpick it a little bit, is if Peter raises his arms, it's a little bit boxy down here under the arms. They've changed the vent configuration. I'm going to show that in a second. But, if you can see how it hangs; love to see some maybe cinching on this jacket. I'm not sure how we could slightly pull that off. It's feedback back up the flagpole to clients. But also keep in mind, we ship for free and exchange for free; no restocks when you need to send it back. So, don't fret if the only place you can find it is with us, online and you want to take that chance on sizing.

Now, reeling that back for a second, let's talk a little bit more highly about this outfit. It's really 4-seasons, which means you're waterproof where you beef up the thermal layers underneath for the winter, but in the summer, you have plenty of ventilation and it's going to be able to go through it and keep you cool. In spring and fall, motorcycling is typically an easier time of the year for most people depending on your temper or your tolerance for waterproofing. So, the key things here, big changes over the Traverse; down the arm, you're going to see there are big vertical vents now that are water resistant zippers that tie in with the Gore-tex integrated waterproof laminate here. But, there's your intakes on both sides.

On the Traverse, they used to be under the arms. They're a little harder, a little bit more out of the way. Now, you have a little bit more access to them. Basic hand-warmer pockets on the front. And, turn around; I'm going to show them the back really quickly here. This is the big feature here for summertime riding -- big scoops on the back, big exhausts that are going to allow that free-flowing air to come out. Turn back around to the front for me, Peter; musical chairs here. Now looking at the shell itself, it's going to be 840D Cordura in impact areas. You can see it in this darker grey. Remember there's a black version of this outfit as well. So, dark grey up here around the shoulders, along the arms, end of the sleeve, areas that are going to be more prone to abrasion. You saw it on the back of the jacket. And, it's an abrasion resistant textile that's not Cordura that you are going to see. It's a little softer. It's not quite crunchy. It has a nice feel to it in the main construction.

Other thing I want to call out is we talked about armour, D3O armour included. And if you do the math and you bought a Traverse, which is less street-centric and a much different style, and added the D3O to it later, it would actually be more expensive to do that. In the Overland, you're getting it all in one shot. So D3O, EVO armour, XT, extended temperature; it's molecular armour. On impact, it disperses the energy. You can see it's that orange armour, it's very flexible, it's very comfortable. But, the XT rating means that even when you go really deep into the temperature range, it's still going to be comfortable against your body, it's still going to do its job in the case of impact.

Shoulders and then, elbows, you're also getting a CE Level 1 back protector that you could upgrade, but it comes stock here in the back which is a nice feature. Now, looking up to the collar, some of the creature comforts and nuances; nice big fleece-lined collar here. Peter rocks a Traverse Jacket. He was mentioning to us that it works for him, it's a stand-up collar. It's really a multi-season touring style outfit. Big YKK zippers, Vislon pulls. Notice it was a two-way zipper. So if you're on an upright bike, you can give yourself a little room to flare it at the bottom. And also, if we look at the reflective scheme, this is something we're seeing come down the pipe from Klim. As they're looking at reflective, they're saying they want to make sure that the humanoid form can be recognized by somebody that's just seeing headlights hit a dark rider at night.

So, shoulders, elbows, forearms, down toward the sleeve, you're going to see it as you work your way down the pants, and see how that would light up, and be bright, and make sure that somebody has a better chance of knowing you're a person on a bike, and they can stop accordingly. Velcro going all the way down with a snap at the collar. Basic on the inside; remember, it's a technical shell. You're going to add your own layers to it. So, mesh lining, iPod pocket, all YKK zippers throughout; some cinching here on the bottom, but again, it's not going to do anything around those kidney areas. You even have loops to be able sneak your iPod or headphone wires all the way up.

Now, turn backwards for me one more time, Peter. I'll walk a little bit more in depth through the back. Pull-cinching here up along the back of the neck for the collar; we talked about that fleece lining, its wicking. Reflectivity, you see that with these big pulls, and then the drop seat that comes all the way down. Look at this. This cut is much more for an upright or three-quarter riding position. I'm not going to recommend it for the tuck at all.