Firstgear TPG Rainier Jacket
I just bought this for a 5 day, 1300 mile trip on my Super Tenere (not sure why this doesn't show as "my ride"). I read most of the reviews on this jacket and the negative comments were mostly fit, rain worthiness, and lack of liner/warmth so let me address those in my review. First off, I bought this jacket because I'm a bigger guy and FG makes apparel for user larger riders. Yay for them. Most of the time I wear a 3X in their jackets but needed a 4X in this one. I'm "long waisted" (6'2" but 30" inseam) so I usually need a longer jacket. This one is plenty long, especially in the back. Works great for me. The only fit area that is weird is the arms. I have pretty good sized guns and the arms are very big in my upper arm to elbow area. Even when cinching the strap, it's big but better too big than too small I guess.
I haven't used this in very warm weather (low 80's at the warmest) and I noticed air flow is OK but if you sit behind a larger windscreen like I do, there's not a lot of ariflow that gets into the jacket. With the gaiters in the arm cuffs, you don't even get much airflow that way but it never got overly hot. I don't care for liners in jackets, I'd rather use a base layer underneath with that it kept me very warm in 40 degree weather at highway speeds. In the 60's with no base layer, I wasn't cold at all.
I hit some biblical rain for about 45 mins on the interstate and didn't get a drop of rain on me. The hood works great and no water entered through the zipper vents or wrist area. I was super happy about that! I also hit rain later without the base layer underneath and the coldness of the water seeped through the fabric so I got a little chilled (it was low 60's out) but never got wet.
Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase. I love the look and it really did the job for me. My only real complaint is that it is pricey. Yep, you can find a few nicer or equivalent jackets for less but not generally in sizes that fit larger riders (I'm looking at you Revit and Klim!). Especially Euro brands where a 2X is a "large" at best. I wish they weren't having issues with the yellow color...I would've preferred that one but no one has them in stock. I did not buy it from Revzilla only because they did not have 4X in stock and I was only a few weeks out from my trip. The re-positional armor is a great feature as are the little side pockets in the upper chest behind the main zipper flap. Great spots for wallet and cell phone.
October 13, 2015
Great Concept ~ Poor Execution
Let me start by saying I am a HUGE Firstgear fan - I need tall sizes in pants and jackets and they've always offered a wide selection of gear in the sizes I need. My experience over the years with FG has always been great! I own and enjoy the previous generation Firstgear Rainier TPG. It's loaded with great features and is probably once of the most well constructed jackets I've owned. With high hopes based on all my other Firstgear product experiences I ordered the new Rainier. "The Good": I'm impressed with the CoCoNa membrane fabric, I like the design of the jacket - especially the hi-viz version. Teh D3O upgraded armor is a great addition. The wheels start coming off there. "The Bad": Fit-wise this jacket is strange. I've almost always worn an XL-Tall in Firstgear. The XL-Tall fits me like a bag. The arms are huge and baggy, the cinches to tighten down the armor and waist are incredibly short and lack adjustability. The wrist openings are ginormous! I ordered a Large Tall and without any liners it's nearly a perfect fit - but with the addition of a single liner it become tight. So maybe I'm between sizes - but note as Anthony did in the video - this jacket is cut large and "boxy", very boxy. Aside from the noted "fit-issues" there is no liner - that I can get over. But there's no adjustable neck, no neoprene lined sleeve ends or collar edges and there is an obvious lack of abrasion resistant fabric overlays. Honestly if you want a great all around touring, dual-sport, day-today, rugged all purpose, weather-tight jacket take a serious look at Firstgear's Kathmandu. It's far superior in nearly every aspect then the new Rainer and also includes the upgraded D3O armor. Firstgear . . . please go back to the chalkboard and cutting table and get the next generation Rainier right . . . you're onto something, but this version falls short of even my modest expectations.
June 13, 2015
Best crash warranty.
I had the older TPG rainier jacket and escape pants that I bought on sale in Dec of 2012 in Nov. of 2014 I crashed and my jacket and pants were both cut off at the crash sight. The TPG line has a 2 year crash warranty and after a couple emails to First Gear my new jacket and pants were in the mail for FREE.
April 29, 2015
Poor water-proof design
The Rainier jacket fit my narrow frame well and was very comfortable. The problem for me stemmed from the two small vent zippers on the chest. While I never tried riding in warm weather I doubt enough air would flow through these front vents to keep a rider cool. Unfortunately the vent zippers do not have storm flaps. After riding for less than an hour in a moderate rain on an unfaired motorcycle my shirt had two horizontal soaking wet lines. Maybe the jacket would be OK for wearing on a touring motorcycle with a full fairing but it's construction makes it a very poor choice full protection.
October 18, 2014
Do not pass go , do not collect $200 and go directly to jail .
I ve got this jacket and I m not impressed. 320 denier that is reinforced in key areas. No liner. Everything about it screams we ve taken a top of the line jacket and done everything to cut costs. I used it for 3 month till I replaced it with Texnic jacket from here. TPG jacket It was waterproof but 320 denier as Anthony says is the video is a thickness of material that only good for 30 feet before it start to wear through in a crash so that is not safe I feel. Also The Yellow neon on the selves is facing inwards so it' going to get dirty fast. Why put the neon in the selves on the inside instead of facing out with the black ? Add in the fact that I ve own 4 peaces of firstgear kit and everyone of them has end up being warranty returned says to me It's not worth buying at this price point. Revit jackets etc are at the same price point and better made. I would avoid it even at close out pricing.
July 25, 2014
Sorry, Not Impressed...
I really wanted to like this jacket. For me, the lack of important features makes it over-priced for what you get.
First, The Good:
- The D30 armor is excellent.
- The fit is good for athletes and lean folks, as advertised.
- The jacket has a nice look to at.
-It's not a warm jacket, by any stretch of the imagination. The material is pretty lightweight. Any weather below 65 degrees requires you to layer clothing underneath.
- It's not a cool jacket, either. I didn't detect the breathe-ability of the material. The venting is minimal & not very effective.
- It has no reinforcement panels in the shoulders or elbows. One good get-off in the dirt may end the jacket's useability.
- Uninspired design: no hand-warmer pockets, no rabbit pouch and the front pockets are zippered closed at an odd & difficult to maneuver angle. The cuffs close with velcro but the design is lacking foldability - they basically just bunch up.
I think this jacket would be okay for some riders but if you are planning on any real adventure touring, I would recommend a different, more robust jacket (of which many are available, at a lower price) and upgrading the armor (if not equipped) to some D30 pads.
In the end, I sent the jacket back and my search continues.
March 31, 2014
First Gear has quality problems with this new Jacket model. Cheaped out where they should'nt.
Was received promptly after ordering and in factory sealed packaging. thought it nice a sturdy clothes hanger was included. All the zippers and buckles were wrapped in Styrofoam sheeting to prevent damage. Unfortunately while checking it out on Christmas morning my hand went straight through the inside lining right side chest pocket. The bottom of the pocket stitching was completely gone! There was some evidence of thread pieces were there but hey should have been caught by the CHINESE factory quality control.
For such a high end Jacket and being "First Gear" I'm very disappointed. And such a cheap material the pocket is made from. Yuch on you First Gear. Why did you cheap out on this pocket? you took such care to make the front outside pockets so tuff. They'll last forever. Bottom line Revezilla did their part. First Gear fell on their face.
January 3, 2014
Like the fit and style
Have used the jacket for a month now and really like the feel, weight and wind protection. High visibility and crash padding inserts make the jacket a must have for in-town riding. I'm on a Can Am now and like the look with this bike vs leather on my two wheeler. Two thumbs up for this product.
November 11, 2013