Great comfortable pair of overpants. Wore them out on a hot summer day without the liner and they were wonderful.

Fits well and is quite comfortable. the armour isn't as thick or expansive as i am use too with my non-mesh gear but seems to be sufficient. Good airflow. we'll see how long i can wear these into the fall with the liner in.

These pants fit right over my dress pants. I have researched EVERY pair of overpants and these are the ones to get. They are comfortable from 40-75 degrees with the liner in and they dont wrinkle my pants. It has not been hot enough yet to take the liner out but I am sure they will be fine at the hottest temps. The only reason I didnt give them 5 stars was becouse I have not been caught in the rain or crashed in them yet. Hopefully i will never be able to comment on the latter! A lot of poeple complain about amour placement and loose fit with over pants but thats just the nature of the beast. I always thought a snugging strap behind the knee like the ones you see that take up the slack in jacket arms would be just the ticket. But no pants I have seen have them. If yiou are looking for overpants... these are the ones.