Speed and Strength Smokin' Aces Women's Pants
Bullsh*t Product, Please Discontinue!
This item is not true to size and does not run 1 size smaller. It's more like 2 sizes smaller. I initially ordered a size 2 to see what the fitment was like since it states that it runs a size smaller. It felt like I was trying on children's jeans, my calves barely fit past the knee pads. I returned the size 2 and ordered up a size (size 4). I just tried them on today and HOLY WHAT THE COW?! DISCONTINUE THIS PANT!!! The size 4 that I received fits like an anorexic giant elf goblin is supposed to fit in this! DO NOT ORDER THESE PANTS!!! The pant barley covers my crack when I'm standing and the thigh to shin ratio is monstrously ridiculous! WHO HAS SHORT THIGHS AND LONG SHINS?! Seriously?! I'm 5'1'', 108 lbs, and my inseam to the floor is 29.5 inches. This SHOULD fit me pretty loosely. What are they using to size these things? What are they using? Skinny, no butt, prepubescent preteens?! The legs are too skinny, there is no room for even my tiny behind, the pant is cut WAY TOO LOW and there's too much fabric at the ankles for how short the thigh is.
If anyone is wondering, yes, I tried it on with a belt as well. Still barely covers the canyons aka my butt crack. Worst part is, if you wear a belt with it, it digs into the top of the pelvis because it's cut so low! How am I supposed to ride in these?!!!
I'm returning this!
July 8, 2016
Fits after modifications
This could be a 5 star product. They look great and I love the color (I don't like denim). They're good for when you want to ride somewhere with some protection, but look normal when you get there without changing your clothes. Unfortunately, these pants are cut horribly. There is a massive gap in the waistband, at the back. Like, do they think women have a gut in the back? Did nobody try the prototypes on? Other reviewers said the thighs are very tight. This is true, however it wasn't that bad for me...and I will tell you how to improve it.
For reference I am 5'6" 190lbs. I wear a size 16 normally, and ordered a 16 in these. I feel they fit like a 16, besides the ridiculous waistband gap. I would have preferred a higher waist, as well. When I first tried them on, if I bent over, they just slipped right down, revealing major plumber's crack. But, instead of staying down, when I stood back up they slid back into place. So that wasn't too bad. A belt didn't help, as there was too much extra fabric from the waistband gap. The thighs were very tight and limited my mobility. Having experienced these things before, and loving the look of the pants, I decided they were worth modifying. They are also way too long, but it was fine with my boots.
How to fix the tightness:
Mix cheap hair conditioner with warm water and soak the pants in them, then put them on. Wet. Yes, it sounds uncomfortable but it's really not that bad, and is worth it. I just sit for awhile until they dry a little and are warmed by my body. Then, I get up and walk around, do a lot of stretches, etc. Wear them as long as you have time for. They will really stretch out. In the future, never put the pants in the dryer. Always air dry.
How to fix the waistband gap:
This requires more work. Buy a yard of 1" elastic from a fabric store (they will cut it to whatever length you want and there is elastic specifically for this purpose). Cut two holes inside the waistband toward the front. Put the elastic into the waistband. Sew it securely at one hole, pull it tight, then sew it at the other hole. You can youtube this. You don't need any special sewing skills. This can be done with just a needle and thread, but it is definitely less work with a sewing machine.
I've only ridden in these twice for about 75 miles total, in 75 degree and 85 degree weather. Initially getting on the bike I notice the tightness as I'm throwing my leg over, then when I sit down I have to pull them up a bit on my thighs and they are fine. Unlike with my other cotton pants, my butt did not get sweaty. I did wear a pair of compression bike shorts underneath, so it could have been that helping. Either way, no problems there, and the legs vented fine despite being skinny jeans. I wore them over Tour Master Solution 2.0 WP Women's Boots and the pants fit well over them, despite having a thick top. I wore the bike shorts because they helped the thighs of the pants be more slippery, and are high cut so they'd block any potential plumber's crack, which ended up not being an issue thanks to my elastic mod.
I did not notice the kneepads at all while riding but I'm glad I can still be safe and stylish, and remove them from the outside if I want to walk around looking normal. They actually aren't even that noticeable. They just slip in the pockets and secure with velcro.
April 19, 2016
Cute riding jeans - bad fit
If you have skinny legs + no butt + waist larger than hips -- then these may work for you! These were cute -- with a bit of protection -- perhaps enough for commuting to work a few miles through town -- alas I tried two sizes -- legs fit -- nothing else fit. I would have kept one pair if the waist was not so-o-o loose. We're talking major belting - and I don't have a tiny waist by any means.
March 15, 2016
Sizing is way off
I was very hopeful with these pants. I read all of the reviews and ordered the pants 2 sizes bigger than my normal pants size. They are nice material with padding in the knees. I could barely fit the legs over my calves and then could not even pull them over my butt. When will these companies actually make pants to fit a women's body.
October 15, 2015
Exactly what I expected.
I read the reviews before purchasing because sizing can be an issue when purchasing on the internet and I've never own a pair of pants by S&S.
I ordered one size larger than my normal size and I am glad I did! The waist is juuuuust a tad bigger than my normal pant-size but a belt fixes that with no issue....The legs are on the slimmer side, definitely fitted, especially around the thighs. Sexy and durable, no doubt. Love the fact that they use YKK zippers, these will last a long time. Cheap zipper are annoying!
These are comfortable and I will definitely be buying more in the future. :D
October 2, 2015
Really love the style, not mom jeans!
I searched far and wide for fit reviews. I could tell they would fit my body type and they do....I'm "apple'ish"....lean legs and hold weight in my stomach region, kind of straight up and down. 5'4", 127#. I normally wear a size 4/6, 27 waist jeans. I went with an 8R and they look good on me. Slim fit in the legs but they do go over my riding boots. Waist is non binding and a little loose. Will wear a belt. Cool cargo style and fit. Definitely not a "mom" pant like most of the riding jeans I'm seeing. I would wear these out w/o the knee pads (easy to remove with outer pocket). I like the kevlar lining and knee protection. I will wear these on a motorcycle tour in Romania. I normally just wear jeans to ride my Harley Deuce but I like the protective features. I have to mention that I also invested in a pair of women's Kevlar lined jeans from uglyBros....very expensive! I believe these have an incredibly similar style and features at a much more affordable price. BTW, sorry Revzilla but it is also easy to find these jeans at a 10% discount at other online stores (something to consider), with free shipping. I gave these 4 stars because Speed and Strength really needs to work on better measurements.
May 9, 2015
It's hard to explain how badly these pants are cut, because it isn't just one part of the pants that are cut terribly. I am 5'10" and about 145 lb. I am a runner, and have a fairly slim/athletic build. My regular pants size is about an 8. Based on the "waist measurement" on the Speed & Strength size chart, I should have ordered a 6. I ordered a 10 Long. The length was the only thing about the pants that fit. I couldn't get the pants all the way up my thighs or over my butt, but even if I could have, the actual waist band would have been about two inches too big. These pants would fit someone who was shaped like an egg, and had stick legs. The waist is huge, and the butt and thighs are tiny. It's just ridiculous.
Thankfully, I also ordered a pair of the men's Rust & Redemption jeans in a 32x34. The waist, butt, and thighs fit perfectly, and there is plenty of length. The only issue I have with the Rust & Redemption is that the bottom of the jeans are a little wide, but I can stitch that up no problem. The women's jeans are just an unfixable mess though. Do yourself a favor and do not even bother. Unless you're shaped like an egg and have stick legs, of course.
April 6, 2015
looks great but..
these pants are super stylish in my opinion, take the knee guards off and they are the perfect skinny cargo.
these are the first riding pants I got so I don't know how it stands up to others in but here's I think:
I got the size 10 short, the pants fit my legs wonderfully, a little hard to take on and off do to the knee guards but im assuming that's normal. I'm a 28' inseam and i didn't feel the need to hem them. around the waist though seemed to be way too big. i had to belt them tight and still had to pull them up quite often when not riding.
here's the thing i noticed on my first ride and this is important. It's slippery on my seat. when i accelerated/stopped i felt myself slide back/to the side when i put my foot down. I really didn't like that. i wore regular jeans on the bike before that and that's never happened.
none the less, ive still been using them around. the slippage might be gradually decreasing with use.
December 1, 2014