Speed and Strength Dogs Of War Pants
Not for everyone
Followed the sizing guides and ordered these pants in a 40 and they fit around the waist but the groin and thigh areas are insanely tight. Can't even lift my legs. Nice features, amazing look but if you have larger thighs don't bother with them they're not going to fit. Showed them to a friend who at first sight thought they were defective until I told him I had tried two pairs and they just have an uncomfortably shallow groin. Confused since most of the reviews said the fit ran a little large this doesn't appear to be the case. The olive color is also much much darker than the pictures show, almost a black.
September 19, 2014
To small and no stretch.
Ordered a pair. They fit fine waist wise. But if you have bigger thighs then this isnt it. Also, they are very "moveable" or have any stretch in then. I could walk around in them fine...but when I went to get on my bike i could lift my leg over.
September 18, 2014
It started ripping the first time I wore it.
I love the style of the pant but the back pocket started to rip the first time I tried to take out my wallet. I couldn't believe it. It doesn't instill any confidence in the product as a safety barrier between my skin and the pavement when the stitching on the back pocket is substandard on the most minimal level... I don't know what these guys are thinking, these are supposed to be motorcycle pants.
September 8, 2014
Comfy, well made, unobtrusive.
I was searching for a pair of padded and Kevlar reinforced jeans, but got turned off by all the fitment issues people reported. These looked like the next best thing for somewhat stylish pants that provide more protection than my Levi's.
These pants fit true to size, and cotton material is extremely supple and easy to wear. None of the aforementioned fitment issues. They feel great on the bike once you dial in the kneepad placement. The stretch panels work a treat, even for someone 5'10" 170 lbs.
You really can't tell the Kevlar is there unless you look inside the pants.
Knee pads feel pretty substantial, which is good for protection. If you're going to wear the pants for any amount of time out of the saddle, though, pull the pads and stash them somewhere, as they feel somewhat awkward and bulky. Once the pads are out, the pants feel great.
They are very black, not faded/mottled as the pictures suggest. Not a critique, just sayin' in case that bothers you.
Overall, they're a good buy. Comfy, easy to wear, vaguely stylish (if you like looking like you're in an industrial metal band), and should hold up well in a lowside.
September 8, 2014
I have always heard that Speed and Strength were cheepos with gear, and yeah sometimes it shows, but they still make affordable gear. It is the give or take kind of thing.
First off all, the material used collects lint like CRAZY!
I wanted the green, but went with the black, I wish I did not, because all the lint show up. I almost want to bleach them, or let them fade so the lint is not as noticeable.
One of the belt loops were stitched too small, did not like it and had to have them restitched so my belt would fit the loop.
The air flow sucks on these, unless you are really hitting some speed.(Summer in TN is humid)
BUT...These are decent pants, I do enjoy wearing them. I like slimmer pants, but not skinny jeans.
The size was pretty close to what I needed. The stretch fabric is in all the right places.
The best thing about these pants, removable armor from outside of the jeans. The only other pants that have that are the RESURGENCE pants from Aus.
Again overall Good pants, but def need a little fine tuning. Maybe they should give us a coupon for testing the first production ones. I will but another pair in the future, but for now I will break these in and see how much they shrink.
September 5, 2014
This dog may still be teething
I am going to be up-front and say I am recommending these because I suspect the pair I received may just be the result of some early production problems.
When I pre-ordered them in August shipping wasn't expected until November, and when they showed up a week later I was a little suspect. As you can see from the photo, the knee armor pads are two different sizes. The good news on that is, the D3o knee pads fit in the outside knee armor pocket.
More importantly, since the video review indicated the pant legs are tapered but appropriately long, I decided to go up from what the review suggested and get the longer 34-inch length. (I am 5'11" and 190 lbs) Good thing I did because even with a 34-inseam these are flood-water pants wearing anything other than boots.
(Writing this review got me thinking, so I measured the inseam (from the crotch seam to the leg hem) and it was right at 32 inches; so I am gonna call this as a production error.)
Finally, although the pant legs don't seem as tapered as the review suggested, the legs are narrow enough that the knee armor rides up as you ride so that it was shortly thigh armor (and that may not be a problem if the pants I got would have actually been 36/34).
Back pockets are large enough to hold my Vanson wallet. Kevlar lining in the seat is reassuringly thick.
Belt loops are large enough to hold a man's belt.
Subtle pattern is tiger-stripe cool without looking like camo-pants.
Should I have returned them? Maybe... But I wore them, so it is my problem now.
Should you give them a shot? Sure! They are functional, without looking like snow-boarder pants; and, honestly, if I knew then what I know now I would just ask to exchange them for another pair.
September 2, 2014
Better than nothing
Obviously taking their styling from a more expensive, but similar pant on the market, you get definitely get what you pay for. Snaps on pockets don't close properly, and fit is just okay. I ordered the correct length for the knee protectors to sit properly, but the pants wind up riding too high for me to feel confident of ankle coverage. The knee protectors are horribly uncomfortable to wear for anything more than a scoot around town. So, better than a pair of 501s, but only barely.
September 2, 2014
Great value for the money
I like the style, as it changes from the "same old - same old". Only real complaint - I think the knee pad pocket should be inside the pants, not outside. I think in a "knee slide" there is a real risk that the pad will be extracted an you will lose the protection.
September 1, 2014