Speed and Strength Dogs Of War Pants
Great design, poor execution
I was excited to find these pants, as I'd spent a while searching for pants of this sort: not jeans, not technicals, but with a bit of extra flavour for everyday as well as longer riding. Overall, I like them, especially the unique design, but feel I'll need to have some professional sewing on them to bring them up to the quality I want. Great design, sub-par quality of make.
Features I like:
- Elastic sections
- Comfortable as all...
- Olive Green actually quite dark
- Removing armour from the outside makes it ultra-easy for everyday riding and then walking and then riding, and kevlar lining looks well-done.
- Sizing-wise was perfect, fitting exact expectations.
Features I dislike:
- Very bad quality pocket studs, one pocket begun to tear around the stud on first wear despite nothing being put in it. Rear pockets won't hold closed at all, just because the studs are absolute rubbish. (Besides, aren't studs supposed to be an extra liability in a putative crash?)
- Only single button at top on waist (no behind-the-scenes fastener button)
Overall, love the pants, was especially surprised as to just how bad the studs quality of make and affixation was though.
January 14, 2015
Good Pants, Color isn't Olive/Green
First off, if you are looking for green pants like in the video images, these are not the ones. I got mine, and while they have hints of green (hidden color gems in the flexible areas), and the inside is green (so my manly bits can see its green), the outside is almost black. Says olive on options, I didn't know that meant black olive? No idea who is in control of color at the makers company, but they need to get their eyes checked. If this is green, my poo must be tie dye.
Anyways, these are great pants for the price. The removable knee protection means when you get somewhere and need to walk around you can take that out and be comfortable. I think they are a nice fit too, not all hipster tight, and not all "dad jeans" boot cut either.
The weight is fairly light, so these will be good in hot weather, like where I ride my motorcycle transportation machine. The length was fine for me, I am 5'11" (180cm) and I went with the 36 waist regular, which matches how I would usually buy pants (weight 185 lbs). I found the legs are fine in the thighs as well. I don't have hulkamania thunder thighs, but I am also not chicken little legs. My thighs are a little larger than average I assume (that's what she said). Basically, if you don't have mutant thighs I assume you should be ok.
Good price, seems like decent protection, not as burly as my kevlar jeans. But also half the price and much lighter weight. I assume in a fall/slide these motorcycle performance slacks should save your man bits and still leave you some meat on the backside so as to not interrupt your twerkathon days. Hopefully I won't need to test em out...
January 1, 2015
Full featured riding pant
After looking at many different brands especially BMW's City 2 pant I decided on the Dogs of War pant and I'm very happy I did. The pants fit just like jeans and I ordered my normal size, the fit and quality are outstanding, best part they are half the cost of the BMW pant. The feel is relaxed with a slimmer design and although I just received them and haven't ridden in them yet I can tell they will be very comfortable on the bike especially in cooler weather. Overall the pants are a good value and offer good riding protection.
October 22, 2014
Not for everyone
Followed the sizing guides and ordered these pants in a 40 and they fit around the waist but the groin and thigh areas are insanely tight. Can't even lift my legs. Nice features, amazing look but if you have larger thighs don't bother with them they're not going to fit. Showed them to a friend who at first sight thought they were defective until I told him I had tried two pairs and they just have an uncomfortably shallow groin. Confused since most of the reviews said the fit ran a little large this doesn't appear to be the case. The olive color is also much much darker than the pictures show, almost a black.
September 19, 2014
To small and no stretch.
Ordered a pair. They fit fine waist wise. But if you have bigger thighs then this isnt it. Also, they are very "moveable" or have any stretch in then. I could walk around in them fine...but when I went to get on my bike i could lift my leg over.
September 18, 2014
It started ripping the first time I wore it.
I love the style of the pant but the back pocket started to rip the first time I tried to take out my wallet. I couldn't believe it. It doesn't instill any confidence in the product as a safety barrier between my skin and the pavement when the stitching on the back pocket is substandard on the most minimal level... I don't know what these guys are thinking, these are supposed to be motorcycle pants.
September 8, 2014
Comfy, well made, unobtrusive.
I was searching for a pair of padded and Kevlar reinforced jeans, but got turned off by all the fitment issues people reported. These looked like the next best thing for somewhat stylish pants that provide more protection than my Levi's.
These pants fit true to size, and cotton material is extremely supple and easy to wear. None of the aforementioned fitment issues. They feel great on the bike once you dial in the kneepad placement. The stretch panels work a treat, even for someone 5'10" 170 lbs.
You really can't tell the Kevlar is there unless you look inside the pants.
Knee pads feel pretty substantial, which is good for protection. If you're going to wear the pants for any amount of time out of the saddle, though, pull the pads and stash them somewhere, as they feel somewhat awkward and bulky. Once the pads are out, the pants feel great.
They are very black, not faded/mottled as the pictures suggest. Not a critique, just sayin' in case that bothers you.
Overall, they're a good buy. Comfy, easy to wear, vaguely stylish (if you like looking like you're in an industrial metal band), and should hold up well in a lowside.
September 8, 2014
I have always heard that Speed and Strength were cheepos with gear, and yeah sometimes it shows, but they still make affordable gear. It is the give or take kind of thing.
First off all, the material used collects lint like CRAZY!
I wanted the green, but went with the black, I wish I did not, because all the lint show up. I almost want to bleach them, or let them fade so the lint is not as noticeable.
One of the belt loops were stitched too small, did not like it and had to have them restitched so my belt would fit the loop.
The air flow sucks on these, unless you are really hitting some speed.(Summer in TN is humid)
BUT...These are decent pants, I do enjoy wearing them. I like slimmer pants, but not skinny jeans.
The size was pretty close to what I needed. The stretch fabric is in all the right places.
The best thing about these pants, removable armor from outside of the jeans. The only other pants that have that are the RESURGENCE pants from Aus.
Again overall Good pants, but def need a little fine tuning. Maybe they should give us a coupon for testing the first production ones. I will but another pair in the future, but for now I will break these in and see how much they shrink.
September 5, 2014