Firstgear TPG Escape Pants
After 70,000 miles in 4 years on the first pair, this is the second pair I bought.
Well, this is the second pair of First Gear TPG pants I bought from Revzilla. The first set I rode for 74,000 miles in 4 years form 5 degrees F to 111 degrees F. Eventually they stopped being waterproof, so time for a new set.
I just rode from Upstate NY (Albany) thru Ottawa, Ontario to and Thought Zec Dumoine which is a dirt road paradise Wilderness area about 160 miles Northwest of Ottawa.
On the road form 60 degrees F to 110 degrees F in Ottawa downtown sitting in traffic, the pants performed fine. The zip comes up from the bottom or down from the top, so I lowered them to my knees and they ventilated great. Sure, in +100 Degrees F I sweat, but I would have sweat in a Speedo (your mom would like to see me in) so can't fault the pants for that.
In teh dirt they were fine as well. We rode about 130 to 140 miles off road in 6" deep sand, gravel, 4" to 12" diameter rocks, watercrossings, weeds, brush, and a 36 mile 'road' on teh West side of Zec Dumoine in what we call "The Cake Mix with 1/2" diameter marbles in it Road." Again, pants were fine thru all of it, didn't even notice them.
The last 15 miles out of the ZEC we hit 40 MPH rain with torrential downpour (about 45 minutes) and the pants kept me bone dry. With the addition of gallons of water, "the Cake Mix with 1/2" diameter marbles in it Road" firmed up on the right 2 to 3 feet near the edge, so we made some time there.
The next day on the way back thru the 300 miles or so from Temiscaming to Ottawa in hours of heavy rain, I snapped and velcroed, the bottom elastic gators to my Sidi Adventure Goretex Boots, closed the side vents and made sure the zippers were in the houses, and viola, I am happy to say I stayed bone dry again!
The only thing about this pair is there is not a zip in liner, so I'll use my old zip in liner, and simply not zip it in when the winter comes to the northeast once again. The other concern I have is the material seems thinner than the last pair, so we'll see how they hold up. So far, in a few thousand miles, so good! Thanks again Zilla!
I posted a picture of a water crossing in the Western part of Zec Dumoine where the water went from 'shallow' to half way to my knees while standing on the pegs of my VStrom. With the elastic Gators sealed around my Sidi Adventure Goretex boots, my legs and feet stayed completey dry.
August 16, 2016
I really liked the fit of the pants but the pair I purchased leaked water through the side of the legs and front zipper. After riding in a moderate rain for less than an hour my crotch was soaked. Also, the seat of the pants do not have any high-traction material help keep your butt from sliding around on the saddle. I didn't have these long enough to try them in warm weather.
October 18, 2014
Not worth it
I got these pants from firstgear as a warranty replacement. I was not impressed with new 2013 firstgear tpg pants. Everything screams we cheap out . They ve gone from 600 Denier with overlays to 320 Denier. They ve dumped the winter base liner , so now you have to buy it . Dump the 4 waterproof pockets you had down to one. Gone is the build in adjustment TO a having to wear a belt. Single line stitching through out the pants means even for any reason on stitch give out the whole seam will open up. So far in 4 years 3 pairs of firstgear have pants of done that to me. There no BS from them about warranty but it still a pain. There other companies like Revit making safer products at this price point. Yes there ll are waterproof and ok to ride in but I feel unfit for real world crash above 35MPH .
July 26, 2014
Excellent and worth the money
First of all, these pants are a little expensive compared with baseline armor, but you get a lot for your money. They're waterproof and breathable, come with D3O pads, and have excellent functionality.
I like that the sides zip up to mid thigh for easy access and wearability with double zippers so that they can be zipped up and down from either the top or bottom. I also like how all of the zippers are waterproof and red so they really pop visually. The material is very comfortable and breathes well even in hot weather. I rode in 85 degree heat this week and was fine in them. I have not tried cold weather, but I think they'd be nice and warm. I'll probably use them as my new snowpants for skiing as well. The armor in the knees and hips is excellent quality and lightweight D3O (which I love), and one additional thing that's great is that there's plenty of room for moving the pads around to customize the fit. Also, these pants come in long and short sizes, which is necessary for me since I have obnoxiously short legs. I like the number of pockets and that they are all sealed and waterproof.
I have a 34" waist and a 29" inseam (yes, I know, super short). I normally wear 34x30 pants, so I ordered a size 34 short (which has a 30" inseam rather than 32"). They fit perfectly, just like my pants do, and they fit over my regular pants.
I recommend wearing these over your pants (I think they're designed specifically for that) because the inside is mostly a breathable mesh that isn't very comfortable without something in between. As for comfort, I could, and do, wear these all day sometimes, but they're also easy enough to put on and take off for a short commute to work or whatever. Also note that as with any waterproof pant, you do sacrifice some breathability to have the waterproofing, but it's not bad in these. I wouldn't say that they're cool and breezy when riding, because they are not, but at the same time, I don't find that I'm sweating my a** off in them on hot days either (literally).
These pants are super sexy. Every one says so and is jealous. You will look awesome in them without being over the top, and in your face. Ample appeal to turn heads with enough subtlety to not be screaming "look at me!"
The excellent design, fit, feel, protection, armor, and functionality are all well worth the money. They may be a little toasty in hot weather (80+), but they're great all around and their waterproof nature makes up for any drawbacks in ventilation.
June 3, 2014
Tall Folks Can Stop Searching for M-C Pants
I took advantage of the free shipping & I received my order very quickly from Revzilla. Kudos to the Zilla team.
I'm 6'2" with long legs, weigh just under 200 lbs and wear size 35 waist in regular pants. I went up to the 36 waist size for these pants, which is plenty big. Since the waistband has two snaps, I can close the pants a little tighter by using just one snap. Belt loops are present, which are helpful, as well.
The pants (size 36 long) are the first pair of motorcycle pants that I actually pondered, "are they too long?" In the end, I don't think so - I'm just used to knee armor riding up to my thigh and pants that won't cover my boots when I'm in the saddle - not the case here. A long inseam and an athletic cut that doesn't flap in the wind. Whether standing or sitting, these pants fit well.
The quality seems very high, with all pockets and zippers functioning properly. There are no vents but if you're roasting, opening the outseam zipper would offer plenty of ventilation...and potentially a few strange looks depending on what you have on underneath your TPG pants! For me, the pants were surprisingly warm - not in a bad way - just good quality and coverage.
I'm one of those nerds that does a boat-load of research before spending my hard-earned cash. I came to the conclusion that the TPG Escape pants were the best combination of breathable/waterproof pants, with an outseam zipper (that was a must have), built to last, offered flexibility for temperature extremes and were offered at a reasonable price.
March 19, 2014
Replacing a 4 year old pair of TPGs
TL;DR: Comfortable and well made, direct replacement of old TPG Escape pants. Recommended.
My four year old pair of TPGs were starting to get less-than-waterproof in the seat, even though the rest of the pants were in excellent condition. 40,000-plus miles of sitting is just hard on the material.
After looking around and trying a few other pairs of pants, I came back to the FirstGear TPG line. My original pair were still in good shape, fit well and had the features I wanted.
It appears the updated TPG Escape is a good continuation of the already excellent product line. The new Cocona fabric is soft to the touch, flexible and easy to ride in. I tried a pair of GoreTex pants from another manufacturer and sent them back because they were the opposite; felt like sandpaper, unyielding and made me fidget.
I am 6'1, 200 pounds, wear 38x34 jeans and ride an R1200RT daily. My original TPG pants were 38 tall, so that is what I ordered to replace them with and the fit is perfect.
October 15, 2013
Very difficult to put on and take off
I have wanted very much to like these pants. They provide very good crash and weather protection. The deal breaker for me is they are a pain in the butt to put on and take off. I commute to work and home for lunch so that is 4 times a day to be angered by the design. It has finally become too much and I have gone back to my old Firstgear H2O pants. My TPGs are for sale! My next purchase will be made with ease of donning in mind.
The reason they are hard to put on and off is the 2/3 length leg opening compounded by the way the knee armor is attached and the loose nylon lining. My boots always hung up on the knee armor and became trapped in the lining. They are a great destination pant when put on and worn for hours but a lousy commuting pant.
February 20, 2013
These fit just right in the waist in my usual size but without any other pant under which for me works out as I did not get them to use as an over pant. Have not had a chance to test them in the rain but they look a though they will do what is advertised. Would have given all categories a 5 star except the leg zippers could be long enough to come above the knee which would make it much easier to get on and off with boots on. All in all a very nice pant with vents which helps when the day warms up. Very nice traveling pant with many options. Too bad no reach through in the outer hand pockets to get to the nice pant liner under that can be worn as an outer garment.
November 19, 2012