Metzeler Karoo 3 Tires
On my R1200GS these tires offered a tremendous improvement on dirt roads, especially on muddy roads. The stock tires felt like I was on ice; these get a grip good enough to ride with confidence. They will still slip quicker than an aggressive full knobby, but you can easily maintain control. The trade-off is on pavement. Steering lost its precision, a slight wobble occurs in straight line driving, and the most significant change is the feel as you lean the bike. There is a zone of "free fall" feeling as you begin to lean into a turn that I found unsettling at first. Once you get leaned over far enough to engage the large side knobs, the traction is very good and the feel is predictable. I rode my favorite paved twisty back road and didn't hold back with good results. I went a little slower due to the less precise steering feel, but the bike never slid even a little. Amazing! I practiced a few full panic stops on pavement and noted a little longer stopping distance, but it was still quite acceptable. I'm willing to trade a little on road feel for the greatly increased traction on the dirt. Now I'm able to ride on pavement and investigate dirt side roads without worrying about sliding out the front end in wet areas. I have become more used to the leaning transition feel and don't notice it nearly as much. I have not ridden on wet pavement yet and have only put about 130 miles on the tires.
December 2, 2013
Great tire if were durable!
Loved the tire but hated its durability.
Rear tire only lasted 2, 500 miles tops in trip from San Diego to Cabo and back.85% road, 15% offroad.
Great looks and handling on road and offroad on hard packed dirt rocky roads, even great on sand.
Do not recommend and will not purchase this again.
Have had de Heidenau k60 scouts.Great 50/50 tires, but this time will go with Shinko 705 cause of great reviews and price.And it is my type of mix.A 80/20 tire.
November 27, 2013
Great on/off road grip but don't expect that rear to last long
I put a set of these on my KTM 1190 Adventure.
ON ROAD - They were pretty terrifying on the road at first but once they wore in and I got use to them they were much better. A little noisy and vibraty at speed but nothing like a full knobby. You really can hook through the corners with these on the road, especially big fast sweepers. Once worn in I still couldn't use full throttle in 1st, 2nd or sometimes third as it would spin up the rear. Wet tarmac was surprisingly pretty good considering.
OFF ROAD - Off road grip on the front was fantastic, very stable in the loose gravel and on wet grass, never got a chance to get into the mud. Rear was ok on the loose stuff, still not much traction even in OFF ROAD MODE which is 100hp instead of 150hp.
TYRE WEAR - Not good really, I did 2500kms of about 80% road 20% offroad and the rear was completely gone, the front tyre however is only about 30% worn.
Please note: I put the power mode on the bike back to street mode with these tyres to make it less aggressive, also road with traction control on all the time (i usually switch it off before i turn the key) And the whole time i had these tyres on I was very hesitant to use full throttle as I could literately see the tread depth depleting a little more every time I got off the bike and had a look.
SUMMERY - Overall i'm impressed with how these tyres handled on and off the road. I'm not too happy with how long the rear lasted considering how much i babyed the bike with these tyres on. I wouldn't buy another Karoo 3 Rear. Will be trying out the K60 rear instead when it becomes available in a 170/60R17 size in February 2014
I think the karoo 3 is more suited to a 650 or an 800
November 20, 2013
Good All Around Tire
So far these tires have been pretty good they are a little squirrely at first but get better. They dont last as long as a street tire but are definately better in the dirt. Overall I like the tires. They don't last as ling as a K60 but seem to be a better tire.
November 12, 2013
better dirt traction than adverture tires
been waiting to see for years if anyone would build a tire that was a perfect trade off between adventure tires and full out motocross knobby tires ...and here it is the Karoo 3 about 70% street % about 30% dirt ...good wet traction on asphalt if you run at the speed limit . I have been to speeds of 120 on asphalt on them and they are stable ...you can hear them at speeds of 40 to 60 no certain hard paved roads but they do not vibrate like full knobby tires do ..had them balanced up and they spin real nice and I put them on a 2011 Harley-Davidson Dyna Street Bob and made it handle very well on back county broken pavement , gravel, and dirt fire roads , the rest of the time I ride asphalt only with a little push in turns above 90 so if you watch your speeds on public roads like you are supposed to you should do fine with the handling and have great traction when the going gets tuff
October 24, 2013
Very nice so far.
I just installed these on my Triumph Tiger 800 XC. First impressions:
These are great street tires. They are smooth and turn in quickly and easily. Just got back from the Smokey Mountains and they worked great in the curves and switchbacks. Wet pavement too. Much better than the stock Bridgestones. Off road they worked like you would expect a tire with a knobby design. Much more confidence inspiring than the stock tires. Only have about 2K miles on them. Hope they last as good as they ride.
October 17, 2013
Metzler Karoo 3
Put them on my Triumph xc 800.
If you ride greasy mud get a bigger knob tire. Rocks, sand, and asphalt are all good. Just got back from the Colorado BDR and did mostly off road for 650 miles. My only complaint is the bike headed for the deepest rut on a muddy road as if possessed by evil. I blasted down some loose gravel roads and asphalt hairpins with ease as well as rocky climbs. Just a note for you Triumph xc guys if your bike isn't running well at 12k feet, go to 9-10k and turn it off let it cool re-start then let it idle without touching the the throttle for about 10min. Turn it off for 2 min and then be on your way. It will reset your EFI. As far as knobby mileage I don't care. Its a knobby it won't last.
September 15, 2013
Something out of Transformers!?
Just what I was looking for!
How does one find an good adventure tire?
Good on the street, but still able to provide that same quality in the dirt? Here is a question that alludes us all.
This tire gives better grip on the road than the similar competitions K model, and much better in the dirt!
I was looking for a tire between the proven TKC and K models, and Karoo 3 has delivered!
Metzeler has done it. They have raised the bar, and given our community another option. I have not been so excited to put more miles on these crazy looking things. I am willing to give on miles, to gain confidence on the street and in the dirt! (And under hard braking.)
We are asking a lot from all these manufactures. To give us something that does all these things, at some what of a low cost. As of this writing, Metzeler Karoo 3 is the new King for me. Remember, it is a give and take world.
August 26, 2013