Firstgear Kathmandu Overpants
noisy and undersized
fabric is very when rubbed against itself compared to most jackets.
I wear a 40 in two different FirstGear pants. I ordered a 42. Can't even zip it up, even after I took off my pants (these are supposedly sized as overpants). So about 3 sizes too small.
The pricing is good compared to other waterproof pants. If there's room to go up a few sizes, they might work for you.
September 25, 2014
If you are a serious body builder with huge lower limbs and a trim waist, then these pants are made just for you. The legs and thighs are ridiculously baggy, and the material is so thin that it flaps when riding at freeway speeds. The waist is very trim. I am tall, slim, and lean: 6' 5", 165 lb., and the size 36 Long pants are amazingly tight around the waist (I wear size 34 waist / 36 inseam in 511 Levis). I would not recommend these pants without modifications for real adventure touring -- the knee pads slip out of alignment when standing on the pegs. The only way to safely ride in the dirt with these is to completely remove the stock knee pads, and then buy knee pads or armor that can be strapped securely to your body. Another issue is the fact that the pants can not be put on over dual sport boots -- there is not enough clearance around the knees, so the boots must be taken off. I wear US size 12.5, metric 46 TCX Infinity Gore-Tex Boots. Another issue is the fact that the leg zippers unzip too easily -- they should have put locking pulls on them. There is a similar problem the the zipper that holds the suspenders to the lower back. After riding about an hour on twisty roads, I've found that zipper to be unzipped by about two inches. What I really hate about these pants is the position of the one thigh pocket; it is too low and angled so that things will fall out of it while riding if you forget to securely close the flap.
August 27, 2014
Comfortable, waterproof, great riding pants.
I have used these pants for a few months now and have been happy with them. I have ridden in temperatures near 40 F with the liner installed and was not cold at all. Rode for 200+ miles in the rain without any leakage. The suspenders keep them from sliding down while riding. They have a high waist, so measure around your stomach to determine the size you need. I would have liked it if they had longer leg zippers to make it easier to get them on while wearing boots, but not a deal breaker.
June 20, 2014
First Review of the pants
Okay I am 6ft 180lbs with a 33 waist and 34 inseam...got the 36 Tall. They fit good. yes as others wrote it would be nice to have some straps around the thigh to snug up the pads. in riding position the pads hit me right where they should. Walking around they droop.
Havent tested in wet conditions yet, hot days with leg vents open they pull air thru, comfortable. Not hard to get in and out of at all, just unzip the bottoms. I havent tried the fall liner yet, will let you all know how that works and the wet factor soon.
June 16, 2014
Great utility overpant.
I'm a year round rider. I ride a 90 mile commute every work day. I was looking for an overpant that would fit over my uniform and keep me dry while providing armored protection. This pant fit the bill. Is it super stylish? No, but it's stylish enough to not look goofy. I would call it neutral, which is what I was looking for.
I have a 32 inch waist and a 30 inch inseam. I ordered a 34 waist and a size short (30 inch) inseam. The fit is perfect for me. The D3O is an impressive feature (both hips and knees) and it is adjustable with Velcro.
I've worn this pant at freeway speeds in temps down to 32F. It was chilly but bearable with the thermal liner in. There is a draft that comes up from the ankles as they cannot be made to fasten tightly around the ankles. I've also worn them with the vents open in 93F heat and humidity. Not bad in shorts but pretty uncomfortable with pants underneath.
Pros: all the above.
Cons: the only thing I haven't liked about these pants was a leak in the inner thigh area during a heavy rain. It could have been a seem in the black flex material but lore likely it was the "waterproof" zipper vent. It may have had something to do with the riding position I was in as it is more of a sport bike position. A more verticle ADV type position May yield better results.
I would definitely purchase again.
June 7, 2014
Even better than I expected
I had a chance to really try this gear out in tough weather this weekend. 2 hours riding at 37 degrees with heavy rain/sleet. I stayed completely dry and warm. It is also great daily gear on warm days with the quilted liners out. I would highly recommend to any one.
June 2, 2014
Not as good as the matching jacket
Ok, got the matching Kathmandu jacket and these pants to go with. Right out of the box, I could barely get them zipped up. I have a 34" waist, and ordered a 34... Had to return them for a 36. The 36's fit ok-in just my underwear or a pair of bicycling shorts, but very snug over jeans. It seems like their sizing "template" model may have been a pro bicyclist- tiny waist, huge legs. I'm fairly muscular (6", 200lbs, 44" chest, 34"" waist) but these pants have very large legs to them, the length is fine, tho...
Too many "features" -I think these pants would be better if they were simpler. The inner "gaiter" to go around your boots, I guess, are just a pain. Any hook and loop fasteners (ie "Velcro") just get caught on everything but where they are supposed to go. Only one pocket on the front/side of the right thigh is present and I would NOT trust it to hold anything more important than a candy bar-it should be bigger and have a zipper closure for security. The hook and loop to cinch the bottom of the legs around your boots is not up to the task, and doesn't offer enough options to take up the extra material that now flaps around your boots, and all the hook and loop just feels cheap, too small, and like it will just pull off or tear.
On the plus side, they are warm, and reasonably well vented with the liner removed and vents open. They zip to the jacket-that is a very good feature, and all jacket/pant combos should have it. They possess very nice(removable) suspenders, that work well and are comfortable.
But, overall, I find I don't wear them much, and usually find myself wearing different riding pants most of the time-and I have several options. These pants take too long to put on and take off, so I never wear them to commute in anymore
I don't care for the fact that these pants are lined-not the removable, thermal liner-the nylon lining that is sewn to the outer shell. It contributes to the pants being hotter in warm weather, and doesn't really do anything in the cold.
I guess overall, I would not recommend these pants.
May 20, 2014
This product is well insulated
I really love my new overpants. Very well insulated with many other benefits like the through pockets and the suspenders greatly help to prevent your lower back from getting cold. The only bad thing about the pants is that they take at least ten minutes to put on. A minor suggestion for anyone buying would be to get the next size up. The hip pads make it just a hair small.
May 12, 2014