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Klim Badlands Pants
Klim Badlands Pants
Perfectly partner to the Badlands Jacket and your dream journey, the Klim Badlands Pants provide comfort in all-conditions due to Klim's legendary dependability.
Engineered to ride all-day and every day, the Badlands Pants incorporate a matrix of materials designed to fit your riding position and needs seamlessly. From aggressive, over-the-front off-road two-track stages to wide-open asphalt, Klim has refined the Badlands for a premium tailored fit across the board.
Robustness comes from a full suite of D3O and Poron XRD armor components followed closely by the most abrasion and cut/tear resistant Gore-Tex fabric technologies available. Comfort and real durability on demand for any ride, any time, anywhere.
- Improved comfort and fit
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell material on main body reduces weight without sacrificing durability/weatherproofness
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell with Cordura 840D on lower legs for increased durability
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell talisman Superfabric abrasion-resistant material on knees shrug off abrasion
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell Armacor material on seat area provides outstanding abrasion and tear resistance
- Poron XRD premium impact foam tailbone coverage.
- Jacket to pant zipper has been standardized (40cm) which enables you to zip different pants and jackets together
- TPU molded zipper pulls
- VT10 YKK Vislon Aquagard water resistant zippers
- VELCRO® brand fastener adjustment at sides of knees to cinch down knee armor
- Refined armor placement and exterior adjustment straps keep limb armor in place
- Guaranteed To Keep You Dry Gore-Tex 3-layer pro laminate technology
- Gore-Tex pro laminates, the most breathable, most durable motorsports shell construction available
- High-mobility active fit patterning for unmatched comfort
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell material on main body
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell with Cordura 840D on lower legs
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell talisman Superfabric abrasion-resistant material on knees
- Gore-Tex 3-layer pro shell Armacor material on seat
- Soft Italian full-grain leather inner knee/lower leg exterior
- 3M Scotchlite industrial grade reflective materials on panels and trim for increased low-light visibility
- Stretch gusset panels
- Embroidered logos
Integrated Armor System:
- D3O T5 EVO PRO XT hip and knee pieces included (exceed level 1 CE certification for pren1621-1:2011 testing)
- Poron XRD tailbone coverage
- VELCRO® brand fastener adjustment at sides of knees to cinch down knee armor
Cargo, Comfort and Support Systems:
- 2 mid-thigh cargo external pockets
- Side waist adjustment straps
- Mesh comfort liner
- Over-the-boot adjustable boot cuff with zippered expansion panel and custom K snap closures
- Rubber coated buttons
- Updated VT10 YKK Vislon Aquagard water resistant zippers
- VELCRO® brand closures and elastic panel at waist
- High-back elastic waist
Max Flow Ventilation:
- 4 ports
- 2 upper-thigh intakes
- 2 rear leg exhausts
Note: Zipper on thigh may be black or grey as pictured.
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Reviews & Questions
I ride KTM 990 or 1190R
I also have the Badlands Jacket, which I would give 4 stars too. Some good features, water bladder is overly complex to work, a little too short for my taste (only a little), zippers are way to hard to close on vents with one hand. Otherwise really good jacket.
For the pants... I just returned from 1100 mile ride through CO, mix of onroad/offroad. Did COBDR a month ago in the pants and another 1,000 miles around Sturgis over Mother's day, all on my KTM 1190 Adventure R. I'm 5'11, 185, 33 inch waist. So.... these pants are definitely waterproof. The pockets are actually great. Even if you forget to zip them, the way the are designed, nothing (at least for me) is going to fall out. The vents on the front of the legs, open and close well, and I could operate them with one hand (much more than I can say for jacket). The back vents, were fine, the zipper dangled right by my lower leg, so I kept thinking something was loose or flapping, but that is a small niggle. The main niggles I have are:
1. The knee pads are sub-optimal. I'm sure they would work great if you crashed, but they were really abrasive if you stand a lot on the bike. It was really uncomfortable. As anyone who rides adventure bikes, knows, you are standing much/most of the time and having it be abrasive every time you squeeze the tank is not great. I found myself constantly fidgeting trying to find a comfortable spot on the knee pads. Yes, they were in the right spot in the pant, yes they were inserted properly.
2. This is the big one. I have slightly bigger legs. I was a soccer player and then a bike racer throughout my life. MY thighs are big. Not crazy, but big. I followed the fit guidlines and was a 34. Unfortunately, I have a 31ish inch inseam and a bike with a 35 inch seat height. You know the drill, it is important to have pants that allow range of motion so you can put your foot down. These pants are like having a belt tied around my thighs. They bind up in my thighs and I had a low speed tip because of it (and some rider error of course). I'm constantly trying to adjust pants, slide them up, etc. to get range of motion, but nothing helps. I don't know why they didn't put some flexibility into these pants. For $600 or whatever, they really should be dialed. I used to ride F800 so I had the BMW Ralley pants, and those were a dream. Since I don't ride BMW anymore, I rather not wear those pants. I'm going to try the Dianese's as it seems like they have some good flex built in.
Anyway, love Revzilla, but thought I should pass along these concerns. I probably should have returned them right away, but figured maybe they had to break in or something....
Complaints? The knee armor. It wanders around in it's pocket and is uncomfortable. It did its job in the crash though. Still, it is weird as the jacket doesn't have this problem with the elbow and shoulder armor. Klim could make this work better.
Fit? Don't use your pants size. Use the fit guide. I'm 5'9" 150lbs. In jeans I wear a 32 30. Size 30 fits me like it should. Enough room to layer.
Should you buy it? These aren't cheap. They saved my hide.
I haven't tried them in the rain.
Figured no big problem. Send it into Klim take advantage of their repair policy and have them do a quality repair (at my expense…no expectation of warranty coverage).
After repeated inquiries and a final converstion with the head of customer support, No such luck. The explanation for their inability to repair is that because they couldn’t guarantee that it would be restored to 'as new' condition in terms of protection and waterproofness, they wouldn’t perform the repair. Turns out they flat out do not repair the “Superfabric" used on the Badlands and other of their high end gear. I repeated several times that I wasn’t asking them to restore it to original condition, but rather they they use their knowledge, tools and materials to repair it to the best of their ability... to no avail.
If you’re thinking, why didn’t you take advantage of the “Gear Protection Guarantee”?
"If you are involved in a motorcycle *accident within FIVE YEARS of purchasing *qualifying KLIM® gear, KLIM® will replace the damaged KLIM® gear FREE OF CHARGE.”
I tried that too, but they won’t consider it unless you have a police report and so that led nowhere.
So, the takeaways are the following
1) if you are considering a Badlands garment (or above) that uses their “Superfabric" know that you’re on your own if you have a fall and you suffer any damage on the knees and elbows. Klim will do nothing for you.
2) If you damage your gear in an accident (how else is there to do it) then make sure you get a copy of the police report (in my experience the last thing I want when I crash is the police to be involved, but maybe that’s just me). Otherwise, Klim will do nothing for you.
Well, after three "get offs" and two water crossings, I can say these literally "saved my a**" and survived to ride again. The fabric and armor work exactly as advertised. I tested the hips, knees, elbows, and shoulders, With a temperature variation of 65-95 degrees F, I also tested the ventilation and drying. Everything worked as advertised and promised.
There was definitely some "break in" required. But, once you get past that it seems like both the jacket and the pants form and conform to your body. The more you wear them, them, the better they feel. Everything fit true to size. And, given that I am 6'6" with long arms and legs, that is saying a lot. When I bought these I wondered if I was just wasting money; I now appreciate that I got what I paid for. I am now a huge Klim fan.
over 2 years ago
over 2 years ago
Odd bits/Nit-picking: I wear a 32" waist with 33" inseam. I couldn't even get the 32" pair on...not even close. 34" fit fine and I can squeeze in a pair of jeans. I went with a LONG fit as well. They are a tad too long, but the regular ones would have been too short. Walking around in them is a bit odd, but they are PERFECT on the bike.
Overall, they are worth the price.
As others noted the legs are tight. Really tight. I'm almost 6' 2" 180-185, I wear 32 x 34 Lee carpenter jeans, 37" true waist, 32" true inseam. So I'm basically tall and slender, especially my lower half. I bought the size 42. Fits fine everywhere but about mid thigh to upper calf. In this area they are a bit too snug. This is compounded by the odd location of the lower Velcro cinch strap. Its too high. When I sit on my '05 R1200GS the stiff material behind the knee bunches up uncomfortably. The greater the knee bend the worse this will be. The Velcro strap is really not functional as the pants will have no extra material to cinch on any average person. I don't see how anyone would fit a knee brace in there, but I have no experience with them so cant comment. Ive looked closely at the lower Velcro cinch strap and believe it can be carefully removed with a stitch picker. It serves no function for me and just pinches the back of my knee. It needs to go. I also believe discomfort in the pants overall will decrease as they break in. But be warned there is little extra room for an insulating layer or bulky thighs. fortunately the materials are so thick they offer decent protection from cold. I work a thin base layer underneath and that was about all I had room for. For me that's fine as I did not buy them as a winter pant but a general purpose three season pant (I live in central Illinois).
The complaints in reviews below about the thinner materials, broken zipper pulls, snapped plastic D rings, and weak cuff snaps may be legit but they also seem minor. The zippers are clearly high quality and the pulls (the rubber and textile part not the metal part) can easily be replaced if they break. I use reflective tent guy-line cord on mine. The D rings at the waist are a bit thin and the material anchoring them is not super burly. But you cannot cinch these pants tight enough to effectively hold them up (see the need for suspenders discussed below) while walking. so there should be no need to crank on those D rings. They are just for keeping your shirt tucked in and adjusting from sitting on the bike to standing while walking. and if they break they are easily repaired at minimal cost or hassle The snaps at the cuff are not super burly and they may not hold sufficiently in the two tighter positions. But if I really care this is easily and cheaply remedied with a trip to the seamstress for a Velcro addition at the cuff. As far as the thinner materials Im okay with it. The pants are beefy in the major places that count, the other material seems adequate. And reducing some of the bulkiness of the Kilimanjaro pants was important for me.
The pants are still heavy, even with the pockets empty, and unless you have some prominent hips to hang these off you will want the suspenders. I ordered them immediately after trying on the pants for the first time. Trust me on this one. Factor the price of the deluxe Klim suspenders into the final cost. The Kilimanjaro pants included them.
These pants have no integrated gator or inner cuff. I like this. While it does allow more wind up the legs, especially with the less than optimal cuff snap adjustment, it eliminated the constant hassle of the typically ineffective inner cuff and a point of weakness. I take stand alone goretex hiking gators (REI.com or Black diamond equipment.com) if I need more protection in this area.
Overall I'm satisfied with the pants so far. Each pair of pants offers its unique trade offs. I selected the Badlands over the Rev it option due to the more basic design that had fewer frills. Also the venting appeared more functional, though I had no need to test it in early April.
I hope my contribution helps some. Good luck.
As I was ordering these just before a trip I really obsessed over the sizing as according to the size chart I was a 32 long, but that just seemed wrong based on every other pair of pant and over pant I've every owned. So Revzilla being as helpful and accommodating as they are, I ordered a 32 long and a 34 long. Both fit, but the 32 was very tight as these are quite narrow through the legs and that's saying something as I pretty much have grasshopper legs. The 34 long are awesome on their own and will also fit over a pair of jeans. They are still slender as other reviews have stated, but comfortable and once on, do not flap around on my scawney legs as others do and can be tailor fit using the straps on the back of the legs and around the hips.
I wanted these primarily as a cold weather/rain pant or for use off road and they fit the bill perfectly. During the trip, we road across the Florida keys in a brutal rain storm and I was bone dry and comfortable. A few days later while making our way back to Virginia up through Tennessee we spent about 7 hrs in heavy rain and high winds all in traffic on the interstate and again I was perfectly dry and very comfortable. Not even a slight leak through zippers or seams and due to the Gore-Tex, no clamminess. Seriously awesome.
Now back at home in the frozen north I escaped three weeks ago (NB Canada) I found myself wishing I was still riding in the rain through the keys again, so today I fired up my KLR 650 and took off for a quick fix as we can finally see the pavement again here. About 1 degree Celsius and wearing only a pair of jeans underneath, I was good to go (for a short ride) due to the excelllent wind protection again provided by the Gore-Tex.
If you're looking for a pair of pants (and jacket) that will keep you dry, relatively warm (depending on the base or mid layer) and provides really decent ventilation for a waterproof pant in the heat, these are very much worth the money.
Yes they're expensive...but you really do get what you pay for in this instance and if I lost or destroyed (not likely, they're tough as nails) them tomorrow, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair. Same goes for the Jacket, really awesome gear.
I'm not familiar with the Forma Terra boots, however, my Alpinestar Toucans will fit...but barely. I have skinny-bird-legs so keep that in mind. If you have large ham-hocks for calfs you may have a more difficult time. Normally I wear the BMW Rally Pants that have the big open zip. I've thought about slicing the gator and installing a zipper or velcro to facilitate larger boots. However, I can make it work. That being said, when commuting, I normally wear leather combat boot, in part, because they are easier to put on under the badland pants.