I purchased these pants to add some extra protection/warmth during my morning commute (I live in NH, so the mornings are a bit chilly. I haven't ridden with them yet, so this is just my initial review so people can have some information about these pants.

Let's start with the bad first (hang in there, there is good!): These pants are hard to get on. I am 6'1", 220lbs 36x34 and purchased size XL. I have meatier thighs, and getting these pants on was a challenge. There is a gusset in the fly that limits the expansion of the waist to about 2 inches beyond its closed state. There is no option to unzip, unbutton, or otherwise remove this piece of fabric short of cutting it.

The good: This is a well-made piece of gear. Stitches are solid, I wasn't worried about ripping the aforementioned gusset because of the quality of the stitching. Length is good in the legs. The inseam zippers come most of the way up the pant leg. There is hip and knee armor that comes with it. When standing the knee armor hangs a little low, but sitting down, it hits at just the right spot.

These pants are well-made but have some challenges for people who don't have super skinny legs.

Not what I expected this over pants are nothing like the previous over pants I owned from icon they have no inside liner the first time I un button the pants the button broke they will be fine for what I need them and I just put a new button my self not worth my time trying to return them they probably won’t last me long any ways the pocket is not a pocket witch it’s cool it’s an opening to get to your pants pocket the belt strap works ok I’m a size 36 and bought an XL it’s a bit loose but not bad that’s the way I like them over all it’s an ok pants I like the previous ones way better