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Dainese Pony C2 Perforated Leather Pants
The Dainese Pony C2 Pants are inspired by Dainese's racing offerings, but with a much less aggressive fit and a look appropriate for the street. Constructed from perforated cowhide leather and generous S1 stretch panels, the Pony Pants do not lack in the safety department with composite protectors at the knees and Pro-Shape soft protectors at the hips.
Note: We have found the Dainese Pony C2 Perforated Leather Pants run small and suggest going up if you are between sizes.
- Composite protectors certified to EN 1621.1 Standard
- Pro Shape soft protectors certified to Standard EN 1621.1 at sides
- Pants certified to CE Category - 89/686/EEC Directive
Ergonomics and Comfort:
- Cowhide leather
- S1 fabric
- Elasticated inserts
- Double calf zip
- Jacket-trousers fastening system
- Sanitized lining
- Localized perforation
- 2 outside pockets
- Denoted as Dainese P. Pony C2 Pelle Estivo in Dainese catalog
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Reviews & Questions
I have one major issue with them and one minor. The major issue is that I clearly have larger calves then most. I own a pair of TCX X-Cube boots and I cannot get the zipper to close over these boots. The pants also don't fit in the boots.
So as a result, I ride with these slightly open. Which means it's it's raining, the water gets in from the top of the boot since the pants don't close around them. I can't even predict which boot would work best with these pants.
The minor issue is that if you wear these with just underwear, the lining will rub your knees and it will chaff them. I did a 6hr ride with these pants and I came back with some pretty raw skin on the knees. You can fix that by wearing some lycra tights or something similar.
But other then those two issues, these really are fantastic pants. They also work better with people who have thin calves as compared to larger calves. Mine are quite large thus why I think I have issues with my boots.
They are listed as having the suit to boot system but potential purchasers should be aware that they do not have this system. They have an expansion zipper in the calf but that's it. There is no Velcro on the inside of the shin which the matching Velcro on the "in" boots should marry-up with. This means the Velcro on your "in" boots will rub and destroy the liner in the pants in no time. It also means there is a risk of the pants slipping up your leg either as you ride or in the event of an accident. This was my experience of the previous model before I added a Velcro patch on the inside myself.
Whilst the old design didn't have this system either it did have a fall back in the elasticated calf. The entire calf and hem was elastic so you could cinch down the second expansion zipper right to the ankle which would really lock the pants in place. The new design has a fixed hem which doesn't stretch so your expansion is either closed for over the pants type of boots or open. I find in the open position it isn't tight enough and looks hideous (very wide looking calf then narrow ankle). The shin armor is so long it now sits on top of the shin armor in the boots so it is even more unsightly and uncomfortable. This really should be a modular system so the pants armor meets the top of the boot armor in any combination of Dainese pants and boots. I would imagine "out" type boots would have the same issue with overlapping hard armor.
I really wish they had kept the aspects of the previous design which made it work so well with their in boots as in other respects they are good pants. However, as a confirmed "under the suit" boot fan these are a step backwards. Plus they are missing aspects of the system they claim to have.
A couple of notes:
Yes, these are perforated - but they are leather. Wore on some 80 degree humid days in NYC. While at speed they're great - stopped a different story; but not unbearable. You will most likely sweat.
Perhaps it's my inseam compared to height, but these pants are slightly short in the hem especially in the seated position. With boots they're fine, but just something to be aware of.
I have read high and low for reviews as I have large thighs compared to the rest of the chicken legged population. I workout near daily and my legs are a strong point. I'm no Kevin Levrone but I have been bodybuilding for 20 years. I am 6'1" and weigh about 220-225lbs, depending on how hungry I am in the past month. I typically wear size 36x34 to 34x32 jeans depending on cut and brand; Kalvin Klein, Polo...etc. My problem in jeans is that when the waist fits the legs are too tight and if the legs fit the waist is huge. That's what I get for trying to stay in shape.
Most reviews seem to say that 52-54 European are equivalent to 32-36 waist. These same reviews mention how tight the legs feel as well. Putting two and two together, chicken legged population and most people do not workout theirs legs even those who hit the gym, I figured go large or go home. I ordered a 56.
I received my pants today. First impression, these things are tanks and will be a workout for any hanger they ever hang from. I went to put them on and realized these aren't your regular pants. I had to sit down and stretch a little to get my feet to even get into the leg openings. I swear I cramped up a little in my hips. This was reminiscent of an episode of Friends where Ross was trying to hold onto his youth buying a pair of leather pants which shrank and he could not get them back on during a bathroom break during a date. I finally got them on.
My second impression once having them completely on and standing upright were that these were tight. They were tight around the thighs, perfect around the waist (again 34-36 in jeans) and perfect around the calves/shins. I pumped my legs back and forth to get them more situated around the thighs. I tried squatting in them like in the tucked position; plumbers butt. They definitely need some breaking in and I feel confident they will once I wear them a bit as other Dainese leather products I have, gloves and jackets, have broken in well after a few rides.
The pants fit perfect over my Dainese Axial Pros. I unzipped the second zipper giving more room in the calf and they fit perfect both girth and length. The two looked sweet paired together. I bet any "in boot" would do the same. Perhaps the "out boot" would work well with the girth adjustment zipped all zipped up. Further more, I zipped the 360 waist zipper paired with a Dainese Airframe mesh jacket. Yes they did line up and zipped perfectly although different styles of protection fabric.
I couldn't wait so I jumped on my Honda CBR 250r. Yes I'm 6'1" 225lbs and ride a 250. It's my first bike guys and it kicks butt. No it's not too small! Perfect for me now until I learn the art of riding and step up to 600, if I ever do.
Getting my leg over the bike was a scene and once I got on the bike I could tell this ride would be a back road slow ride. It was like driving your friends car; similar feel but just different. What I mean was the fact these need breaking in and just bending my leg to get on the pegs had a learning curve. Going into the tuck was challenging; plumbers butt. I tried to pull over and let cars pass so no one seen my cool gear with my red underwear hanging out. I could see the pants breaking in and this being less an issue in the future.
Riding for about an hour they did become more forgiving and I felt they were breaking in already. It was about 85-90 degrees out and these weren't too hot. The perforation didn't breathe too much but not once did I think my legs were hot. Slowly I was able to get more and more into a tuck and felt more confident with the pants. Again, I believe they will continue to break in with each ride. My thick thighs were somewhat strangled at first but when hopping off the bike they felt like the pants were only hugging my legs. The seat needs some more break in time for sure.
The protection felt above and beyond. I felt well protected and felt kind of bullet proof yet never want to find out, of course. Where the Axial Pros left off, the pants' shin protection started perfectly and the knees were held right in place. The hip protection was not limiting my flexibility yet could gladly be more beefy as I never refuse greater protection. You won't be disappointed with the level of security compared to anything I've ever seen.
Once home from my ride I decided I was pleased with my purchase and would recomend this to anyone wanting something with leather and no sliders. Squatting a few times after the 1st ride they already were fitting better and I anticipate they will continue to contour to my svelt hind quarters. Now getting them off was the final laugh. Again, think Ross from Friends. I got them off but this was almost a two man job.
Thanks Revzilla for the chance to help others with my review who might share the same burden of diesel legs!
I'm trying to figure out a fix for this since I don't want to change-up my boots (Forma Adventures, which I'm really happy with). I like these a lot otherwise, and I'm sure they'd be fine with in-boots.
I like the protection the Aliens afford, but they are hot.
If you're riding a bike that gives you airflow, the fabric part will ventilate well.
The leather part gets very hot in the sun.
I still wear them...