These pants are comfy, and I've put thousands of miles in them in numerous Asian monsoons. Bought mine in 2013, and get nothing but compliments when teamed with my Avro D-Dry Jacket, but they are definitely not waterproof. In a light rain, sure, they'll keep you dry, but 15 minutes in a real rain storm and you'll be feeling that cold pool of water building up around the crotch. Provided knee and shin protection is easy to remove/re-install for cleaning. The extra thermal layer definitely helps drop riding tolerances down 10 deg or so, but for seriously cold riding I would recommend a good base layer pants as well. It also snaps in and out easily, but adds a bit of thickness that will slightly hamper mobility/feeling.

Overall a good pair of riding pants. Only real complaint is the calf zippers love to get caught in the waterproofing layer when being zipped down, but being a little cautious when zipping will help prevent this. However, after the 20th or so time of this happening, the zipper was warped a bit trying to separate the layer and now it won't zip properly. This is 3 years of having the pants though, and despite care over the years, was bound to happen eventually. You can definitely feel the quality of the pants when compared to a basic $100 pair of entry level gear: stitching, material, logos, zippers, etc, all worth the price.

In a light rain they are waterproof, in a moderate rain they are waterproof for about 30 minutes, but in a heavy down pour you will get a wet crotch almost immediately. The included thermal liner is effective, but bulky and I've swapped it for just a decent pair of thermal underwear or serious cold weather liner if necessary. However, for normal every day riding, they are comfy and good from 100+ deg F to about 40. The armor is easy to remove for washing and I've had nothing but compliments on the looks. Also, I know they can take a solid 40mph crash as I low sided in them and only received some scuffing and light tearing on the left hip.

My only real criticism is the waterproofing around the ankles loves to catch in the zipper, and normally the zipper can easily pull free, but one time it didn't and now the zipper is broken. All other features of the pants work well, and I"d be happy having another set just to fix the cosmetic problems of owning them for 3 years and riding with them regularly.