Great pants for the $$$. I was concerned about them fitting like baggy snow pants but they were just right for dualsport riding. I wore them for 50 miles of mostly offroad, muddy trails in the rain the first weekend and they kept me dry. The only problem is keeping the knee pads in the right spot while riding- they kept rolling to the inside of my leg. The hip and knee pads quality is very good. I highly recommend.

I have used these to commute and also for some adv riding and rate them highly. I have been using them as a light winter pant (our winters are cold but not harsh). They are waterproof but I have only tested in light constant rain - the zip gaiter at the boot is 'just' wide enough to fit over my adv boots so the water ran off me well . The hip armour has been impact tested and is great. The knee armour also good quality but the postioning is not adjustable. They have been used in damp cold conditions down to 40F on the freeway and kept me warm.

I think this is a great pant at the closeout price.