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  • Schuberth SRC System for C3 Helmets
  • Schuberth SRC System for C3 Helmets
  • Schuberth SRC System for C3 Helmets
  • Schuberth SRC System for C3 Helmets
  • Schuberth SRC System for C3 Helmets

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Schuberth SRC System for Schuberth C3 Helmets

The SRC-System is a communication system which is integrated into the acoustic collar. You can install it in your helmet in just a few minutes according to the plug and play principle. Developed in partnership with Cardo Systems, the SRC is a fully integrated bluetooth communication system.

Feature Summary:

  • Intercom between rider and pillion passenger
  • Bike-to-bike intercom (up to 300m)
  • Intercom conference mode for 3 bikers
  • Mobile phone, MP3, GPS connection
  • Integrated FM radio with RDS

Sizing:

  • All Schuberth Women's C3W Helmets will take a size "XXS - LG" SRC system
  • Please ensure you have selected the correct size range that corresponds to your Schuberth C3 Helmet size
    • ex. If your helmet is a size Medium you would select size range "XXS-LG"

Intercom:

Up to 3 motorcyclists can communicate simultaneously with the SRC-System. Under ideal conditions the range is up to 300 meters. range of up to 300 meters depending on the terrain and visual contact

  • Automatic re-establishment of a connection when it is cut off
  • Automatic connection set-up by speaking
  • Automatic connection shut-down after 30 seconds silence, two-channel system for communication

Phone+GPS:

The connection between a mobile phone with Bluetooth capability and SRCS is extremely simple to set up. Incoming calls can be accepted with a voice command and using the keys of the SRC-System. This also applies for navigation devices with Bluetooth capability. After the SRC-System has been connected to the GPS device, the rider can receive the voice instructions conveniently over the two ear-phones.

  • Simple control possible by means of voice commands (VOX)

MP3:

Most commonly available MP3 players can be connected to the SRC-System via the multifunctional USB interface. If the MP3 device supports Bluetooth A2DP technology, no cable is required.

  • Easy to connect thanks to USB
  • Simple control using the SRC-System's control keys

FM Radio:

The integrated FM radio now enables you to listen to your favorite station while you are travelling. Thanks to the RDS function the strongest signal for the selected frequency is always picked up, even at high speeds.

  • Store up to six radio stations.
  • RDS function for automatic station adjustment
  • User-defined programming possible with SRCS software

Note: The SRC System is only compatible with Schuberth C3 and C3W Helmets.

4.2 / 5
Bang For The Buck
3.6 / 5
Features
4.3 / 5
Style
4.6 / 5
Ease Of Install
4.7 / 5
Sound Clarity
4.3 / 5
Product Style RevZilla Item # Manufacturer Product # Availability
XXS - LG Helmets & All Sizes C3W 742804 9049100270 In Stock: Ships next business day
XL - 3XL Helmets 742805 9049100271 In Stock: Ships next business day

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Does the job well
Stylish device integrated with helmet.
After a couple of years of use the only annoying thing is the voice command. You have to yell in order to make it work (which is quite fun when you are at a stop light and have pedestrians around…)
August 8, 2015
Ride:
2011 BMW R1200GS
Bang For The Buck
3 / 5
Protection & Durability
4 / 5
Features
4 / 5
Comfort
4 / 5
Style
4 / 5
Cool product that has performed well and sounds good.
I have been using this quite regularly over the past few months. I have not had any charging problems. Have had about 8 hours of listening time per charge.

I really like how the system is part of the neck roll. Very clean. The helmet is just as comfortable as before, even after removing the small velcro patch under the chin.

The boom mic is interesting. Have to get it in the right spot to close and lock the helmet. Had to take off the foam piece because it was directly against my mouth. With that removed can put the mic against the inside of the helmet and not know it is there. I've been told it sounds good from the other end of a call. Apparently the mic can take quite a bit of bending, which it will every time you put it on. Easy to get used to.

Volume is great. I wear ear plugs and still don't turn it up all the way. If you think its not very loud you should probably check the bluetooth volume on your device, get hearing aids, or just take advantage of the quieter helmet.

Sound quality is ok. I don't expect much low range in these types of systems but these speakers are the best I've heard so far.

Haven't used the FM radio while riding. But standing in my house I got good reception of the major radio stations in the area.

It was more than I wanted to spend, but I said the same thing about the helmet! I'm over it and enjoying it.
July 16, 2015
Bang For The Buck
4 / 5
Ease Of Install
5 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
5 / 5
Seriously.. after buying a $699 C3 it's the only compliment.
So here's the deal, if you watched the video you'd know that the microphone boom has a larger foam cushion which muffles sound even more if it is not directly in front of your mouth. If your face structure (your chin) is more pronouced the boom will be uncomfortable in the helmet. The boom is designed to be used and seated right in front of your lips. Just that simple, but for everything else:
- Ambient noise cancellation: when I'm talking to anyone they think I'm in my office even at +100 mph.
- Sound clarity: 100% clear especially since this fits into the most quiet modular helmet on the market. If you have an aftermarket racing exhaust, the drone will distort the people talking to you, but that's your purchasing decision and not an SRC issue.

- Bluetooth connectivity: if you read the manual/website or even called Schuberth North America the first thing they ask is if you updated it to 3.0.x. If not your bluetooth does not AD2P connected, thus eliminating most IPHONE features. Buying it now, it is preloaded. Iphone SIRI - press the phone button once, SIRI pops up, gives you the tone, say your command. If you're unintelligible she won't recognize you with or without a microphone. Easiest way to find out, ask her to Dial a number and not a person. Could be you. Also make sure your phone has headset controls turned on. Bluetooth headset controls are different than line-in controls.

Controls: The trick is to look for the ridges between the buttons. Pay attention to the ridges and your $400 contraption is stupid simple.

Software: Yes it comes with updateable software that allows you to turn every feature on/off or modify the settings. Key things to modify out the box - radio station presets and whether you want the other controls on/off.

Loudness: The only issue I face depending on which phone I use - particulary the Iphone for whatever reason. My samsung has amazing clarity, and volume range. The system also automatically adjust volume levels which is a big+.

Intercom: Ding! you found where your extra $100 went. You can connect to any Scala rider Intercom headset in full duplex which means your headset operates just like the G4 from Cardo. Here's the differences - a Q2 pro multiset is a master slave relationship where if you have multiple bikes each bike can talk to the master, but not to eachother. The G4 allows for 2 or more simultaneous connections allowing you to talk to 2+ other intercoms at the same time or a 3 way conversation. You get the G4 technology in your SRC without having an external device attached to your helmet.

I've had mine long enough to have a speaker blow out. Called up Schuberth, they issued an RMA to Revzilla and they shipped me an advanced replacement. Find better service than that!
April 4, 2012
Ride:
2012 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R
Bang For The Buck
5 / 5
Features
5 / 5
Comfort
3 / 5
Style
5 / 5
Great Sound
The SRC has great sound for music and GPS. I made a few phone calls and was told that there was no wind or engine noise but the voice was slightly muffled. The battery was still charged after 10 hours of music and GPS on the road. FANTASTIC BLUETOOTH!!!!
July 2, 2015
Purchased
1 year ago
Ride:
2013 Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG/I
Bang For The Buck
3 / 5
Protection & Durability
5 / 5
Features
5 / 5
Comfort
4 / 5
Style
4 / 5
Air Flow
4 / 5
Great product
First week riding with the blue tooth headset. Everything works great! Simple to use and connect to my cell phone for music and phone calls. would recommend to anyone.
May 18, 2015
Ride:
2009 Yamaha XVS1300A V Star 1300 Tourer
Bang For The Buck
3 / 5
Ease Of Install
5 / 5
Sound Clarity
3 / 5
Durability
5 / 5
Great addition to the C3 helmet... however...
My experience with revzilla has been wonderful. My item was in stock, shipped immediately, and delivered as promised.

I purchased the Schuberth SRC to compliment my Schuberth C3 that I recently acquired. I was moving up from a Cardo Scala Q2 that I had installed on a Shoei X12.

When I first purchased my C3, I did not find that it stopped the wind noise as much as I anticipated it would. While riding I was able to quiet down the helmet by placing my hand near the neck roll. Many reviews of the SRC indicated that the neck roll was thicker, so one of the reasons for my purchase of the SRC was in hopes of quieting down the helmet. Which in my case it did very well... however read below.

Installation was a snap.I placed my C3 on the helmet bag during installation to avoid scratches. Just take your time. I immediately updated the firmware of the SRC once it was fully charged. This too, was straight forward and easy to do. Another nice touch was that it was possible to set your radio stations right in the software. Those who have setup radio stations on a Q2 know how tedious that can be...

With the SRC installed, you have to adjust the way you put the helmet on. The neck roll is significantly thicker and stiffer, and at first can be painful to put the helmet on and off your head. Spreading the helmet open a bit helps. The instructions state that you must remove the velcro'd windguard from the C3 to allow adequate room for the mike boom. While it does make it easier, I don't find this entirely necessary and will probably leave it in if I want additional noise elimination on extra long rides.

Immediately upon my first ride, my hopes of quieting down the helmet more with the SRC were confirmed. Much less windnoise was immediately apparent, and even better ventilation from the top vent due to the better seal around my neck.

However, the main reason of the SRC is for the comm and speakers. In some ways I was left hoping for more.

As I previously stated, I moved up from a Scala Q2. As such, the sound quality from the SRC is better as is to be expected since it now has A2DP and apparently better speakers. Where I previously had to have the Q2 in my Shoei X12 on the loudest setting, this is not so on the SRC. In fact, I'm at 1/2 of the usable volume level. The controls can be a little difficult to find with gloves on, but I find that I'm getting used to it by feeling the ridges.

It is not however all gold and glory...

The reception, or lack of, is of major concern for a product of this price range.

I paired my SRC with my wife's Q2. Our range has been significantly reduced. In fact there are even times when she is riding only a few bike lengths behind me and the connection is full of static to the point of being useless. I found that disconnecting and reconnecting sometimes works.

FM reception is rather poor as well.

I am sure that the reception issues are due to the fact that the antenna is concealed inside the neck roll inside the helmet. There is a youtube video where someone added additional wire to the antenna of the SRC which visibly improved reception. I may look into this. However one would expect that Schuberth would have addressed this in such an expensive product. It is after-all a comm system - which seems to have a major issue in that regard.

I should also note that my wife's Scala Q2 is not able to initiate an intercom session with me on my SRC. I will be contacting Scala / Schuberth about this as well.
June 20, 2011
Ride:
2009 Ducati 848
Bang For The Buck
2 / 5
Ease Of Install
4 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
4 / 5
Great system but expected more integration...
My previous system was a horrible CAMOS... so it is a serious upgrade. Yet...
This SRC system fits nicely with the C3 and does add any wind noise. The controls are simple and easy enough to operate. A cheat-sheet sticker could have helped for the first few weeks.
The sound is great and I honestly never use the maximum volume... even at highway speed. When I call my wife, she definitively knows I'm riding but understand everything clearly.
I'm a bit disappointed with the boom-mic. It's bulky, always in my mouth. And closing the face-shield is now award. I need 3 hands! The mike always gets in the way. Basically the cable is pinched by the neck guard. I would have expected more for an OEM integrated system...
The control unit (left) and the battery (right) add some serious stiffness to the collar. It obviously needs to be broken in, and I need to pull the two sides of the helmet apart if i don't want to rip my ears off...
All in all it's a good systems. Connection, quality and easy of use are better than the competition. my big problem is the discomfort. Also, I haven't tried the intercom yet. I will as soon as my wife gets hers...
October 31, 2011
Ride:
2009 BMW R1200RT
Bang For The Buck
3 / 5
Protection & Durability
3 / 5
Features
4 / 5
Comfort
4 / 5
Style
4 / 5
Weight
Light
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Heavy
Air Flow
5 / 5
It's OK, not great for this price
I bought two of these sets, one for me and one for my wife. Hers, out of the box didn't work. It wouldn't turn off or pair with mine. Return exchange was handled very timely between Revzilla and Shuberth. Installation was not easy but not that difficult. Watch the revzilla installation movie. Very helpful.
As far as getting the firmware upgrade, I have two PC's both running Windows 7. One of them could not install the firmware update. The Shuberth instructions indicate that this may happen and directions are to use another computer. If you don't have another handy, you can't install the firmware update. As far as the sound quality, sounds pretty good and pairs with my iphone and GPS fairly easily. The function buttons are too small. With winter gloves it's very cumbersome to press any of the function buttons.
You can only communicate with two other riders which is a limitation of this set. I recommend this product only because of it's streamlined fit, but it needs some improvement.
January 9, 2013
Ride:
2012 Ducati Multistrada 1200S
Bang For The Buck
2 / 5
Protection & Durability
4 / 5
Features
4 / 5
Comfort
4 / 5
Style
4 / 5
Air Flow
4 / 5
Nice integration but poor user design
This is a fantastic integration to the C3 helmet. It can not really be seen. But the resultant button placement is very poor and I never get used to it. The boom mike seems to get in the way each and every time I put the helmet on and I spend 60 seconds or so fiddling to get it right. The FM radio is pretty much useless even in urban locations. Speakers are just so-so and the volume is very low with earplugs in.

In the end, this went up on Ebay along with the C3. I just never did adapt to it. Great design, though!
January 9, 2013
Ride:
2010 BMW K1300GT
Ease Of Install
5 / 5
Sound Clarity
5 / 5
Durability
5 / 5
In a league of it's own..........
Debated on the purchase price of this system but once installed & in use there is just no comparision,,,the SRC is in a league of it's own. The sound quality has to be heard to be appricated and the paring up to other compatable units is a snap. Great investment & highly recommend the SRC to compliment the C3.
June 27, 2011
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Why did you choose this?
RevZilla Store
When I saw this I immediately said "Please Take My Money." It works well and is completely stealth in the C3.
Hector T on Aug 23, 2016
This fits my Schuburth helmet
robert on Jul 27, 2016
When I saw this I immediately said "Please Take My Money." It works well and is completely stealth in the C3.
Hector T on Aug 23, 2016
Wanted integral controls and helmet speakers for Garmin GPS and communication with others.
Mark F on Jul 29, 2016
This fits my Schuburth helmet
robert on Jul 27, 2016
others own them
ron p on May 8, 2016
The OEM fit.
paulieD on Apr 19, 2016
I am not very happy with this product, I recommend others to shop around! Schuberth is not very compatible with other blueteeth devices.
Steve K on Apr 6, 2016
built for my helmet. I like it
Samuel A on Mar 14, 2016
Perfect for music in my Schuberth C3 helmet.
David S on Mar 11, 2016
Schuberth helmet
Josef O on Mar 1, 2016
I have a schuberth helmet
DanO on Feb 19, 2016
already had one needed the second for trip coming up
A D on Feb 11, 2016
Clean comm system to fit the C3 helmet.
JON D on Feb 3, 2016
I bought it to compliment my Schuberth C3
Martin C on Feb 3, 2016
I commute about 25 miles each way , hence 50 miles per day. Love my Schuberth , but did not want to add a system that interfered with the aerodynamics of this helmut. The integrated neck bar was an attraction to me as I like everything to be streamlined and as organized as my bike
Hairguy1 on Jan 3, 2016
It's the best bluetooth product for the helmet without question.......
BMW1200RS on Jan 1, 2016
For fellow Adventure Rider who has a Schuberth helmet
John W on Dec 30, 2015
So I could talk on my phone while riding
J R D on Dec 26, 2015
compatible to the helmet and the rider user friendly ability
Dwain H on Dec 24, 2015
The Scala Rider G9X would not work with this helmet
W L on Dec 23, 2015
To pair with my new C3 helmet to keep from ruining the quietness of the helmet
T E on Dec 19, 2015
wanted integrated bluetooth in my helmet for music, talking to my fellow riders if in group, and talking on the phone. I trust the Schuberth brand to work as described. We will see.
karen m on Dec 17, 2015
great price, communication with wife and other riders
thomas j on Dec 16, 2015
be able to hear gps and fm radio
mookie on Dec 14, 2015
OEM high quality Bluetooth radio connectivity.
Jerald B on Dec 13, 2015
good reviews for the helmet and SRC system
maniac357 on Dec 7, 2015
I wanted to see how it compared with my Cardo - the Cardo seems to introduce wind noise.
Leslie R on Dec 5, 2015
Love having bluetooth connectivity during commute and touring
Thomas H on Dec 5, 2015
I like the integration with the helmet
Bernd G on Dec 1, 2015
Quality
Christina M on Nov 29, 2015
Goes with my Schbuerth helmet
Lacy B on Nov 16, 2015
I need it for a C3W I bought recently
Antonio L on Nov 11, 2015
This SRC System is specifically made for my Schubert C3 helmet, and RevZilla has the best price.
RiderOfArnoldTheHog on Oct 23, 2015
It was very good value, lowest price around.
Charles P on Oct 2, 2015
Custom Fit for Schubert helmet
Reiner K on Oct 1, 2015
Made to fit my helmet. Anthony's video was very convincing!!! Other reviews rave about the quality & ease of use. The Germans make good stuff!! I'm going to Arkansas next week and don't want to get lost, so better that I can hear what the GPS is trying to tell me. Love the "Awww-Yeah! Never been so happy to blow CAN $400 :)
Fingers crossed that it arrives before I have to leave on Sunday September 27th....please do your best for me. Thank You.
F I on Sep 18, 2015
goes with my c3 helmet.
Kyle J on Aug 21, 2015
Fits my Schuberth C3 ... nice for blue tooth GPS and iPhone. Want one for my Schuberth S2 but need to wait a bit to make that purchase.
Mark S on Aug 19, 2015
for phone and music use.... easy to install
kathleen m on Aug 10, 2015
C3 owner :)
G O on Aug 3, 2015
I chose this because I love the smooth integration of the system. No sense in spending big money on a quiet helmet and then throw a wind catching noise making device on the outside of it.
John B on Jul 21, 2015
its conciled and dosent and the helmet already has cut out soles for the ear phones
David C on Jul 17, 2015
I added this to my Schuberth C3 helmet and use it mostly for music via bluetooth on my iPhone 6 Plus. Works great and the speakers are plenty loud even at 80 plus on the freeway. I don't even have to turn it up all the way. I can take phone calls and the person on the other end doesn't even know I am going down the freeway on my Harley. It is built very well. I am doing a complete tutorial video on how to use this SRC system. Head over to Law Abiding Biker Podcast & Media for more
Ryan U on Jul 9, 2015
Want to add to my Schuberth C3-Pro
William W on Jul 7, 2015
I have consistently used Scala Rider headsets in the past. And the OEM fitment was a great plus.
William M on Jul 7, 2015
Great review and endorsement on K1600GT Forum with all info to sync it perfectly with my bike :)
Snaps435 on Jul 1, 2015
Best communication option for my C3 helmet
Craig E on Jun 20, 2015
Made to easily install in Schuberth C3 helm.
Stephen B on Jun 18, 2015
Integrated flawless system with Scuberth helmet
Mark K on May 31, 2015
Fit is awesome. Music quality is awesome. People complain when I talk to them on the phone my sound quality is not that great!
Yulia V on May 19, 2015
excellent price
Jimmy K on May 18, 2015
Wanted integral controls and helmet speakers for Garmin GPS and communication with others.
Mark F on Jul 29, 2016
others own them
ron p on May 8, 2016
Can the intercom mic be removed? I only want the audio input--iPhone, Navigation, etc. and not that intercom in my face all the time.
A shopper on Apr 9, 2011
BEST ANSWER: Unfortunately, you cannot remove the microphone on the Schuberth SRC system. If you are looking for a boomless solution, checkout the U-Clear HBC-100!
Has anyone had any luck updating the software using the Cardo Community yet? It looks like the method to update has changed over time and any references i find for updating the SRC point to older methods that don't seem to exist anymore. I get to the point where it asks me to connect my device via USB and when I do, nothing happens. Thanks in advance.
David D on Nov 17, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Hi, I have the SRC for the C3 Pro. There is an application on the Schuberth website that I downloaded for Windows that automatically updates the software when you plug in. Hope that helps.
will this system work with a 2015 HD Infotainment systems blue tooth to eliminate teh cord form teh helmet tot eh bikes 7 pin plug?
Do all of the voice command functions still work?
A shopper on Nov 4, 2015
BEST ANSWER: The HD infotainment system does not support Bluetooth communication.
Does this system only work with the C3 helmet ?
A C on Dec 28, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Unfortunately, there is no single SRC standard system that will fit all Schuberth helmets. Not only do you have to choose an SRC specific for your particular Schuberth helmet, the correct size SRC-S to match the helmet shell size is also required.
I do remember when I purchased the SRC for my C3, it was model and size specific. Hope this helps..
What rider to rider systems is this compatible with?
A shopper on May 5, 2011
BEST ANSWER: The SRC system is compatible with other SRC systems of course, but otherwise it would also be compatible with Cardo systems as the electronics in the SRC are made by Cardo.
on the new c3pro helmet the antenna is in the helmet, do you have to attach it to the neck collar? and with the antenna inside the helmet are there any issues with RF and the brain? I am an ole geezer don't have much grey matter left, don't want to fry what's left. also is there a hard wire component to attach to the bike so can leave helmet in tour pack and charge while on break from riding?
A shopper on Dec 15, 2013
BEST ANSWER: Unlike the C3 Pro, the antenna is built into the collar - nothing to attach other than the collar and speakers to the helmet. No issues with the RF that I'm aware of either personally or otherwise. The helmet charges using a mini-usb plug. The same plug doubles as an audio input if you choose it over bluetooth. If you charge the helmet the night before you ride, I believe you'll find the charge will last most, if not all day. I listen to my iPod via bluetooth and have an occasional conversation with my wife on her bike and I've really had no issues with the battery. This helmet is safe, comfortable, quiet and the electronics are second to none. If you're considering the purchase, you could do a whole lot worse than the C3 or C3 Pro. Enjoy!
Does the SRC system have detachable speakers for the ability to upgrade? Thanks
Jon C on Dec 6, 2015
BEST ANSWER: Not that I am aware, the cable goes directly in the inserts and are not met to be detached. Unfortunately if there is one thing that I would upgrade in this system would be the speakers....

Stephan
Does the box contain 1 or 2 units? Would I need to buy qty 2 to get one for me and one for wife?
A shopper on Sep 12, 2014
BEST ANSWER: You need one for each helmet. As far as I know one per box. Some of the other brands do sell them in pairs.
Hello,

I have a Schuberth C3 with the SRC intercom system, which I really enjoy. I unfortunately lost the USB adapter cable and am unable to charge the system. I was wondering if you have a USB charging cable available for purchase and if so how I would go about purchasing one? Thanks for your help,

Stin Ritter
A shopper on Oct 12, 2013
BEST ANSWER: not sure if you lost the wall charger too.

I am able to charge mine with my smart phone charger.as long 1 end has a micro USB end to fit into the src and the other end can be any size USB and as long as you have a power source for it such as your computer or adapter that came with your phone X cetera you should be able to get it charged hope this helps
can i just buy the charger?
A shopper on Apr 11, 2016
BEST ANSWER: I would imagine you can just buy the charger if need be. I had a problem with my first unit with the charger plug jamming and the pins in it eventually bent and it wouldn't plug in anymore and it was replaced immediately....not sure if it was Revzilla or Schuberth that replaced it though I'm sorry.